From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B24F6158094 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2022 07:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8A8B2BC00F; Fri, 15 Jul 2022 07:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (mail.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEA642BC00F for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2022 07:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1b46119b437abbf1d97997ca445e2e4c60fadfab.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: github's copilot feature From: James Le Cuirot To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 08:35:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-EsX/l8Fu/vPvKRYXbpAV" User-Agent: Evolution 3.44.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 48421143-8f5b-4e2e-879f-a240dbcbcbcd X-Archives-Hash: 59f78efbc32f8f06b3b91c4827f4b8b9 --=-EsX/l8Fu/vPvKRYXbpAV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2022-07-14 at 23:35 +0100, James Le Cuirot wrote: > On Thu, 2022-07-14 at 16:43 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 04:33:43PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > > Hey all, > > >=20 > > > I just found out while I was on vacation about Github's copilot featu= re. > > >=20 > > > Basically, it appears to be a machine learning feature that trains > > > itself on all publically available code on github and provides > > > code suggestions to any public or private repository. > > >=20 > > > https://github.com/features/copilot > > >=20 > > > There appears to be a lot of controversy around it in foss groups, so= I > > > thought it might be worth bringing up here. I added the council and > > > trustees because I thought it might be worth bringing to their attent= ion > > > as well. In particular, I see concerns about gpl projects being on g= ithub > > > if they can't opt out of this. > >=20 > > It looks like the SFC is urging foss developers to ditch github over > > this. > >=20 > > https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/01/open-source-developers-urged-to-ditch= -github-following-copilot-launch/ > >=20 > > William >=20 > Although I don't work for GitHub specifically, it would still not be > appropriate for me to wade far into this debate. In the interest of keepi= ng > things balanced though, I'll start and finish by referencing this > counter-opinion. >=20 > https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/11/robots_open_source/ Having slept on it, I'd like to add that I don't have any problem at all wi= th us moving to GitLab. I'm just as familiar with that as I am with GitHub. I just want us to do it for the right reasons. Chewi --=-EsX/l8Fu/vPvKRYXbpAV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJFBAABCAAvFiEEPxcZ3tkwcedKm2a8EiZBXQDdMTcFAmLRGLgRHGNoZXdpQGdl bnRvby5vcmcACgkQEiZBXQDdMTekxQ//UoBKUVJ72B4Du/0NrV2LnrbD26Q9fYuX IV9st9Bx/S13IE/W/K9R2w7iK8JD48OUmED1Axgs3d8VrIihCjmk22iZpwT7u1H/ c1WvneN0Ki/3qlLwF0DMtef4h2b5ogu0FwW32073uOLiUz4xWwKDKyO62t13OF3+ axVI1AS5JFNoGyo2/UTowIduEtgP1BHYEovsFA7SHtDo1GJDLBL6ZH67gkEkYcS0 lCV1bE1epibrz/aqEF7eQJXrcUIbDH/M6aPgfY/yJh2MMsamuaU0lgzVZ0yo8+5Q moq9q28grb6+RRTktKFVcf+9iS3e0ZPdSDjmbbefLe2Tx7xg1z8TFlLRp4JpXMSg at5fJaNrd7F5OYxZVGrOYv7aPGobX+fy8p/R5PLRA5/ON8OpflptUN6mT/ByTebK WALygFoq5b/Njezxc2T9BTgMKAtrYNtw+Lw/b0lFlhBgpMYVVd5Q1dUXoq4UzwNT 3G10FoUPHU14dC4IDQYwuj7wCLgJp3Jk7aRRldNBvbwzD+/wcz90HDA+Ja3ca3CK h6+BjLWV86mCHhoJBeVsaEErHOvEUr15+69WN1e57KcKqWpK8ZbvJLvRCbDuGaaA X0ZHi+AjvsWkTpSLeRI1S2HYwSOrLr60D9dkcDmgUlmQ0N7cw2cUjtbK9ZjW46l+ 1HKWVnSJErU= =MGvq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-EsX/l8Fu/vPvKRYXbpAV--