On 13/02/18 00:16, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 13/02/18 00:13, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:40 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: >>> On 12/02/18 23:02, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>> Can you provide us with an example when such a scenario has happened >>>> in the past 12 years of council, or is the above purely hypothetical? >>>> Because in the latter case it is not an actual problem that needs to >>>> be solved. >>>> >>>> It is not a game of Nomic that we're playing here, but we are trying >>>> to run a distro. IMHO precluding council members from participating in >>>> projects isn't helpful. Or do we really want a council that is sitting >>>> in an ivory tower, completely detached from the daily distro work? >>>> >>> Uhm, what's the difference .. the council already live in their own land >>> separate from most of the developers, and definitely from the user >>> community at large ? >>> >>> Or at least, such is the perception .. [don't shoot the messenger and >>> all that] >>> >> Such is your perception. Most developers just cast their votes, and >> hence the same council members keep getting re-elected. I doubt that >> would happen if most developers considered them aloof, especially >> since the Council has always attracted a significant number of >> election candidates. >> >> You can't judge something like this by mailing list posts. >> > My synopsis is gathered from a number of conversations, Rich, and > definitely not the noise that emanates from both developers and > non-developers on /any/ of the mailing lists .. > Although, it would be fair to say I was biased, since I'm not privy to the ivy towers or clique that controls [sic] Gentoo ... So far as it could also be said I was actively disliked by them already...