From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4BF6139085 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:49:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA4122340FB; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFB8E2340F8 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rioja.localnet (p5DC7F4F9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.199.244.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johu) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 84C223413B7 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:49:29 +0000 (UTC) From: Johannes Huber To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] RFC: GLEP - Require Projects to report to Council Monthly Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:49:25 +0100 Message-ID: <1937299.r3ENHUtASn@rioja> In-Reply-To: References: <1975914.inQFSlDfHT@rioja> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: 81bfd356-3d14-420a-a15a-2a27c3db00b8 X-Archives-Hash: f859e19527c790a161c643c25f7c9d18 Am Donnerstag, 19. Januar 2017, 15:47:46 CET schrieb William L. Thomson Jr.: > On Thursday, January 19, 2017 9:32:57 PM EST Johannes Huber wrote: > > And when the projects are not doing it, projects get disbanded. Meaning > > packages go to single maintainer only. Which means reporting goes away. > > Great plan! > > If projects are not doing it, and packages fall to a single maintainer. Then > should it even really be a project? A project/team ideally is more than > just one person. If it is just one person, it is not really a project or > team. Just someone scratching their itches. > > Any developer can work on anything. It does not have to be a project. If you > are going to create a project, it should be taken some what seriously and > reporting should be a part of that. Not to mention should consist of more > than one. They should be seeking others to be part of the project team. If > not seeking others, its a solo mission. > > Without such reporting from projects how does the Council or anyone have a > clue what is going on in Gentoo overall? Short of stopping by each project > and doing research into each. > > That said, NOTHING in the GLEP says projects are punished or dis-banned for > failing to report. Developers are required, or recommended to use repoman. > Does that mean someone who does not is removed as a developer? > > At the same time Council should have authority and reason to end a project > it if is not going anywhere, understaffed, etc. Again not having a project > does not mean you cannot work on that stuff. So a project and the work an > individual is doing is not related. If its individuals, plural, then a > project make sense. We are not a company. Best regards, Johannes