Re: [gentoo-project] Status update of Sunrise project?

[Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org>]

On Sunday 12 April 2015 12:04:08 hasufell wrote:
> On 04/12/2015 12:02 PM, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > On Sunday 12 April 2015 11:59:09 hasufell wrote:
> >> On 04/11/2015 01:54 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >>> 1.  What does proxy-maintainers lack in comparison to sunrise
> >>> exclusively.  The immediate question is whether sunrise should be
> >>> migrated to proxy-maintainers, so this specific comparison is
> >>> important.
> >> 
> >> proxy-maintainers lack:
> >> 1. a repository with a usable VCS
> >> 2. an actual review workflow... @proxy-maintainers are just some sort of
> >> backup committers. it's not a hub for contributors to gather, discuss,
> >> get reviews and improve skills
> >> 3. means to ensure the tree doesn't break
> >> 4. actively look for and educate potential developers, even before the
> >> recruitment process
> > 
> > Oh my.
> > 
> > Can you please stop being such a drama queen and accept reality every now
> > and then?
> 
> I am unable to see how that contributes anything to the discussion.
> Could you please stay on the factual level?

So.

(1) is a completely subjective opinion 
(2) is kinda ... like ... your opinion, if you were actually involved with 
proxy-maint you'd know better
(3) uhm what? That is just absurd speculation without a factual base in our 
common shared reality
(4) That's, like, your opinion, maaan.

If you actually spent time near proxy-maint, or in #gentoo-dev-help, or 
basically anywhere where you'd interact with people, you'd not have these 
absurd fantasies about stuff.

So I suggest you can try to do some proper fact finding first :)

... and then we could even try having a constructive discussion. That'd be, 
like, AAAWESOOME.

> 
> >> So it should, if at all, be the other way around: dissolve
> >> proxy-maintainers, fix the sunrise workflow and make it the contribution
> >> hub again it once was. But I'm not actually advocating for that. I think
> >> the sunrise concept doesn't work anymore.
> > 
> > proxy-maint is the least broken process we have. Unless you have
> > constructive criticism I don't see why you waste time whining about
> > everything.
> You have obviously not read the whole email. I did offer an alternative
> solution. Please read the whole text.

Mhhh yes. No. Thanks for playing.
(Are you trying to get me drunk? Because that's how you get me drunk ...)