From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4517C138334 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 05:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 00AEFE0975; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 05:39:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B11EDE0971 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 05:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B92033BDF4; Mon, 4 Feb 2019 05:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1549258785.744.4.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Appeals of Moderation Decisions From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 06:39:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <72cd0fdb-7e82-1c4e-0835-ef1757e7b6b7@gentoo.org> References: <2beb3305-396f-8b10-e2a1-4008d8505fa9@gentoo.org> <6a80c6d4-3f4e-2492-f883-e57fa457b7af@gentoo.org> <2878606.mSfXTjG61N@porto> <4EA8DA39-0311-4F99-8139-699A9C1C93A4@gentoo.org> <72cd0fdb-7e82-1c4e-0835-ef1757e7b6b7@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Iz9yWcAgvDVuwd/6s1Ox" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.26.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: cf070793-994f-4266-89ec-04a3dabe4cc8 X-Archives-Hash: b7d438fa5c1e85e41078708cbba9af91 --=-Iz9yWcAgvDVuwd/6s1Ox Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2019-02-03 at 23:56 -0500, desultory wrote: > On 02/03/19 07:23, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > Dnia February 3, 2019 11:44:19 AM UTC, "Andreas K. Huettel" napisa=C5=82(a): > > > Am Sonntag, 3. Februar 2019, 05:22:09 CET schrieb desultory: > > > >=20 > > > > ComRel, as I have previously mentioned, engages in some extremely > > > > questionable practices, though (again) to their credit at least th= ey > > > > admit it. > > >=20 > > > And parts of forums should rather go away sooner than later, given ho= w > > > even=20 > > > moderators take part in highly questionable threads. That mess also > > > reflects=20 > > > on Gentoo as a whole. > >=20 > > Given how separatist Forums tend to be, and how heavy they are on infra= hardware (not to mention poor security record), maybe the best way forward= would be to stop running official forums, and let forums team maintain the= ir private universe of their own pockets. > >=20 >=20 > So suggesting that others should fulfill their roles before attempting > to subsume other's roles is now "separatist" instead of "sensible"? No. I believe that having a number of developers who practically never participate in Gentoo in other topics than directly related to Forums and who show up only whenever somebody else 'peeks their nose in' to make sure nothing ever changes is separatist. And pointing CoC out at everybody who dares state disagreeing beliefs with you isn't helping any fruitful discussion. Pretty much sounds like attempting to silence dissuading opinions, again to make sure nothing ever changes and Forums are beyond regular Gentoo 'politics'. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-Iz9yWcAgvDVuwd/6s1Ox Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEXr8g+Zb7PCLMb8pAur8dX/jIEQoFAlxX0CFfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDVF QkYyMEY5OTZGQjNDMjJDQzZGQ0E0MEJBQkYxRDVGRjhDODExMEEACgkQur8dX/jI EQqj2xAA5xUwtQ374wfTmuOnePZDKiqlDEIs7yjsO622DIP+ytcPrCMkP+7/9X5l w0uTFKurRaUB5J9AURkg5v01FTz3VFhx6FpRTfcSvbpKwkkFlZko4wUdxO7sNObJ Kcw3NJh6p/CqRgf67krcoEetEhme1ys7UkkAUglLKVgXlr6cxwvSyyz3SKakAEtV +cIvxbpVaLIDFbQz335lewfLSFHk5yf4/PwOcKrRX8nGhuixH4WJ27suwQM9eZPB 7c3TtXTnopNZ5vI1A+LxdkWnSlCriB4bNmBVkKmiCoF8gC/oN9xpQO3l2KC67r2t v4agz6bW4tejy+t4FdxBpN8XuRO56yeXvSZcY5nUymAVMsrEb8ZwoRxYbmtPtWAF +0Ml5brr0AUFUVILgE87st9BctmVlsoui2wqaZbi8ucAGWAjTm0UsQA0gTGuDjag DP4lykLiEJ3hCcjo4q0TjTcC+2knjiQF9/OSCWgu8g6k8qvy/KeK2x4JQP35Yh02 FcCu0SM4FDjPtKMPMB8+ROpaVXsI6ziu6Zon4bN/fIl9G7zm448EqnhO73DKxXax qlaHjOq1IBdo0OPVXBSOOuyBtkRnmskvaz197o016v4ZoiXWGxTBhLWQGsT6LpAU MgbnWLNlm3NMdow7cL5BZq9NLmwkDLkXmnRvfUGavPnYWCS5Fwk= =8rlc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Iz9yWcAgvDVuwd/6s1Ox--