From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87CD8138334 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 16:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A389E0ADD; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 15:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B255E0ADC for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 15:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 130EB335C03; Sun, 2 Dec 2018 15:55:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1543766125.1045.11.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-12-09 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 16:55:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1543149110.17973.1.camel@gentoo.org> <2a393e89-3156-9666-de46-2faf2fd1f7e3@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DLyQ4N3NKn/1oKOknxs+" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.26.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 898bf6d9-6931-4d6f-bcce-214d497207ec X-Archives-Hash: bbe4251345d88cf339ad7c803eda9adf --=-DLyQ4N3NKn/1oKOknxs+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2018-12-02 at 16:30 +0700, grozin@gentoo.org wrote: > On Sat, 1 Dec 2018, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > > 13.0 profiles removal, 17,0 set was added a year ago, and even arm has > > been migrated successfully. >=20 > dev-lisp/clozurecl is broken in 17.0. On ~x86 compiling it loops forever.= =20 > I heard that on ~amd64 it compiles but the resulting binary is broken: it= =20 > fails to compile maxima. The upstream says that this is related to Gentoo= =20 > specific compilation options, and they recommend to use the upstream=20 > options. In 13.0 clozurecl works fine. >=20 > I think those who introduced 17.0 should fix what they have broken. I use= =20 > 13.0, and cannot switch so far. >=20 I think that if there's one package that doesn't work with profiles (compared to the very large number of packages which just work fine), it's not the profiles but the package being broken (read: doing silly assumptions). Therefore, it's not 17.0 profiles being the problem but the package in question. Claiming that people doing any change to Gentoo are required to fix all the problematic packages is just silly. This is basically saying that it's fine to add bad quality packages and then demand others to fix them for you. People who worked on the profile can fix bugs in the profile.=20 Don't expect them to pursue whatever broken packages you like just because they happened to change the fragile conditions under which they worked. That said, if you insist I'll fix this package. But I'm pretty sure you won't like my fix. Disclaimer: I haven't took part in introducing 17.0 profiles. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-DLyQ4N3NKn/1oKOknxs+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEXr8g+Zb7PCLMb8pAur8dX/jIEQoFAlwEAG1fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDVF QkYyMEY5OTZGQjNDMjJDQzZGQ0E0MEJBQkYxRDVGRjhDODExMEEACgkQur8dX/jI EQr1Uw//XjZJMTN+dAI/0zkmtBOnryAPBmavJKELLA34vBnlr3RDU3ZkQZZ1BebG 8VAC1Amvv5hDqdrOt1CarY0PiLKUsDn2nbWZemKdhKPeRKipborThOa1LrMtJ/5t rr4UJqXRsGikQVJ+KyujrBl7oPi6OX7EM+FQ7nC+51R+66jhscCVnT9Zk0KFJ8Xm Px6DacDSs86u6sjF7UpGu3jxTqBJ1sqtfwk6IVPNHks2sbXPs18WcylHPXDiLf5x WVE70R0ZGQOaL60ulzAiC6t9zyBdqf+4VuhYUco0+hTqXIdleRZY2rkPnw3Te7BC pG4aeXPsSZHFVX06kzKxdevw5vA0+kmLjjxCRWeqgd36Y8FD9fPNm4Qg1pnD/BJM taCpcLSArBv2gPNI85oFuZRTj5QnVu5WQZP/+aCesEKKeGhL1Q0O0hQeoMru3qFg GPt19enqud5piZGRD0EzvWYbecgtNfnlrn7bVWvw1Wof8pihV95VHTlL40Y1Tin3 EPLGMMM43gLg+oggEMYNU1LFUKJ/q3jb2zbzc9TMkA6JyoMFkqqmYtDMegx5Rp8K Z/rmr3scLZ5im1TV7pv9PlYdYaZ0Xg/3kauY5PZMjOTEYyHV7D3ka+4yY8rhLhA0 bMyId2fv8Kvg23yIbXI9hzvnlYgaEQYZ4Vpag5IgyGD1jAaCQps= =r+mX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-DLyQ4N3NKn/1oKOknxs+--