From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB238138334 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAE47E09FE; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (dev.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 85231E09FB for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8FB28335CA5; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 08:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1529483543.2506.23.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Date-of-birth in developer applications From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 10:32:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <756a345e-0209-9643-c94f-1cf94321eb2a@gentoo.org> References: <1529482561.2506.17.camel@gentoo.org> <756a345e-0209-9643-c94f-1cf94321eb2a@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-eh/DiVX9rer/qVTgAP1+" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.24.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 3741152b-78ad-4ee4-8c2b-fab20b180719 X-Archives-Hash: 3f5bc8b38963585a4fa8e0760ed0a18a --=-eh/DiVX9rer/qVTgAP1+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable W dniu =C5=9Bro, 20.06.2018 o godzinie 10=E2=88=B624=E2=80=89+0200, u=C5=BC= ytkownik Kristian Fiskerstrand napisa=C5=82: > On 06/20/2018 10:16 AM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > However, I'm not aware of any good > > justification for collecting this kind of personal information. >=20 > Immediately I can think of two good reasons for this information, (i) as > a disambiguifier for matching names, at least across europe it is common > to refer to an individual "A born DD.MM.YYYY", Please tell me, how many times did we have to disambiguate two developers using the same name? Even if we ever have to do that, do you really think we'd use one's birthday all over the place? > (ii) verify legal age for > entering into agreements. One can argue that without further > verification of (ii) it has less value, but at least that would be a > misrepresentation so shifting the question a bit if it ever becomes an > issue with FLA/DCO etc. a. 'Legal age' may differ per country, so birth date alone is not very useful. b. There is no reason to store the full birth date if all we need is a boolean whether someone is of 'legal age'. c. We don't even have any clue what to do if someone is *not* of 'legal age'. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-eh/DiVX9rer/qVTgAP1+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEbbsHzE8NrQbqCv5BsHoa6u+0Rk4FAlsqERhfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDZE QkIwN0NDNEYwREFEMDZFQTBBRkU0MUIwN0ExQUVBRUZCNDQ2NEUACgkQsHoa6u+0 Rk4GrA/+P3Z/zyGDXAn0sPqLNjhOFvOEhAusU+QSSNh4ozww2IflhyjDl8gqQjSo RozV4NxNAQ8WTtBYaSGqR/im3LIUBXPgqdGfc1fRc1HcEwZpDciXhzmbGaaFkWVx Ckh3yZ480SqJ8kkr1IKx+/7AFPtl03TBoXaaARJlkRBHjKuDanUf9gUgQwzFJpUt 7z9sVRctykNzXLoBSXRVTa6eb52YDAVQKR9NpeNi/iwsLSgtI5++I8Pj8fnSx+6S seDYMkKdZKRDFoVuqa9/VCrHot8MQbiNJhdmJGENWnm0bT3KNGA8bYTzAbkhQo7z mSZtOND9NWZyPnHx/sq8y1lNkAyhm2s7KQKz1aHIK3XFAh7/pnVDKwBuBEqHbbj2 WUlkd5Euoch68NNL5EkYxDQ8mW1S7/D2QDbDNB9/zbkToNQTZcw4QUd93HHmX07y B/d74X1dU4JHiJzLEDRb4AihJn1NGQ6LQ2eHfQ0LW9ssj/1Sz+ZIVbkaA6aWjt7x uHB/qkwzOuRZriRdLIguwPinY1r2tF3YtNYfyU271CT5jJe/0uPZP0m5sgTlGcKY flTmiE1j1Z+pmUcQZarbkkxtDNcLGsBMWsLLtdEP2AvrcmHNg6RleRn3/XNuEcHy 8eH9zdUKFqx9HDs3cwmA66qowgP2Wmqq7mYeU4+3LoebgUnfcMU= =43pA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-eh/DiVX9rer/qVTgAP1+--