From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 06:53:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1518587586.3975.3.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180214002141.1d8a6da2@gentoo.org>
W dniu śro, 14.02.2018 o godzinie 00∶21 +0100, użytkownik Alexis Ballier
napisał:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 16:42:34 -0600
> William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The council can't make this change since it is a glep 39 change, so I
> > am bringing it to the community for discussion -- I assume there
> > would need to be a full dev vote to make it happen.
> >
> > I feel that council members should not be members of projects whose
> > actions can be appealed to the council like qa or comrel. I have felt
> > this way for a long time, because I think it compromises the full
> > council's ability to vote fairly on appeals.
>
> In most sane entities I've seen where there's a possible conflict of
> interest, people remotely suspected to be biased not only refrain from
> voting but also keep quiet during the whole discussion. All of this by
> themselves.
>
> I don't think we should prevent any such conflict by prohibiting people
> from running from council (or forcing them to resign from other
> duties). Self-discipline should be enough, but since you feel this is
> not properly applied, maybe a rule to say they should not participate
> to the discussion nor voting in those cases would be saner ?
>
For the record: we currently count 3 QA members in the Council. Given
their abstention, that means that for any motion to pass, all remaining
Council members would have to vote 'yes'. If we had one more QA member,
all motions would automatically be rejected by abstention.
However, I would personally lean towards changing the voting model to be
less silly and make abstention really distinct from 'no'.
--
Best regards,
Michał Górny
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-11 22:42 [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals William Hubbs
2018-02-11 23:20 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 0:12 ` William Hubbs
2018-02-12 0:29 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 2:16 ` William Hubbs
2018-02-12 2:29 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 2:52 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-12 8:19 ` Fabian Groffen
2018-02-12 8:58 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-12 19:14 ` Michał Górny
2018-02-12 19:36 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-02-12 23:02 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-12 23:40 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13 0:13 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 0:16 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13 0:18 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13 0:25 ` Roy Bamford
2018-02-13 1:21 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 0:39 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-02-13 0:57 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-13 4:59 ` Dean Stephens
2018-02-13 5:06 ` M. J. Everitt
[not found] ` <f4781100-3fa2-170f-c388-d53f353bf914@gentoo.org>
2018-02-13 20:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
[not found] ` <23171.27241.311990.19309@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>
2018-02-14 0:33 ` Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-02-12 15:53 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 16:10 ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-12 16:55 ` William Hubbs
2018-02-12 17:03 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 17:46 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 17:58 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 18:34 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 18:40 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 18:52 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-12 19:05 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-12 19:17 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 13:43 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-02-13 13:51 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-02-13 14:41 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-02-13 14:49 ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2018-02-13 4:58 ` Dean Stephens
2018-02-13 5:02 ` M. J. Everitt
2018-02-13 5:51 ` Alec Warner
2018-02-13 6:36 ` Robin H. Johnson
2018-02-13 10:23 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 13:59 ` Aaron Bauman
2018-02-13 20:56 ` Rich Freeman
2018-02-13 15:21 ` Alec Warner
2018-02-14 5:15 ` Dean Stephens
[not found] ` <a1ec3099-11d7-a779-c9c8-a17bbe1d753e@gentoo.org>
[not found] ` <CAGfcS_mZSNTgsRbeGJqmmEkodhK7K73EAx6D4EHMkq1FRw9pRQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-02-13 21:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
2018-02-14 5:16 ` Dean Stephens
2018-02-12 18:54 ` Thomas Deutschmann
2018-02-13 2:43 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2018-02-13 4:09 ` Matthew Thode
2018-02-13 23:21 ` Alexis Ballier
2018-02-14 5:53 ` Michał Górny [this message]
2018-02-14 6:01 ` Daniel Robbins
2018-02-14 6:44 ` R0b0t1
2018-02-14 7:22 ` Ulrich Mueller
2018-02-14 7:29 ` Michał Górny
2018-02-14 6:19 ` Mike Gilbert
2018-02-15 20:15 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
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