From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 995C8139694 for ; Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1B72E0EAC; Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 98E37E0EAA for ; Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05501341ACF; Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1500239562.11529.1.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: [gentoo-project] The problem of defunct and undermanned projects in Gentoo From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 23:12:42 +0200 Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-CUpPS+DZjnDfYzxCLLwV" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 1db2d851-44b8-4295-b730-65a6bffe6b1f X-Archives-Hash: ff0020bcabed96584e0cddf396fb9c98 --=-CUpPS+DZjnDfYzxCLLwV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, everyone. I'd like to re-heat a worrying topic. More than once I've noticed that some projects in Gentoo are either completely defunct or seriously undermanned. This has been already tackled via the herd->project conversion but the problem still exist and I'd like to try to solve it better. According to a quick grep, we have 175 teams defined right now. With a quick grep, I get the following histogram: Members Teams 0 3 1 36 2 34 3 19 4 20 5 22 6 12 ... Besides the first two numbers, it doesn't look that bad. However, most of the time the number of members does not map well into real activity. I think some of the projects could really do with just new members. However, not having active developers on the project makes it hard for someone to actually issue a call for members. I'm thinking of mailing every project in Gentoo (i.e. mass-mailing 175 projects, some developers will get a lot of mail). The mail would contain some descriptive text and a list of project members. It would serve two goals: 1. asking the project to verify its member list (some people still don't keep their wiki up-to-date), 2. asking the project if they need me to send a call for members. Projects that are entirely fine could reply with a simple 'ACK'. Others could ask for help directly. Those who don't reply will be brought to further consideration. What do you think? Would you mind getting that amount of mail once? Any other ideas? --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-CUpPS+DZjnDfYzxCLLwV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKmBAABCgCQFiEEbbsHzE8NrQbqCv5BsHoa6u+0Rk4FAllr1stfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDZE QkIwN0NDNEYwREFEMDZFQTBBRkU0MUIwN0ExQUVBRUZCNDQ2NEUSHG1nb3JueUBn ZW50b28ub3JnAAoJELB6GurvtEZOMVMQAIVw3tu3FfXYRjp53gZtqh76lscqqM/l pHNjgnxENPWrrYOd7NClkpldMCliZT7+cuv1kbxraAIFaZoh8CS32MPORsZsxT8Z jb4hVKkt3L65WM70Mf6uaRK/2qJ2OLfkB1g6l3VUzCPQbC9oDr3MX+T/Y9J1Jvg/ j9hiByKDyRW7WxfQ6hYN3glRafxG6x1l9lZEcbbbuyssAG694wpBJbWCEG1Z0Vro FochdwuwXcx2ezexEh5/eWcdKaauObXb2S476no6V6c9eRI0rFsnH2d848uvY5DD AEU5IrDjaNe5PmRPWQKoNHwIILbus1+Go7b9qiEBLBorinn65kjjVCG/uA3xdj2H m9tY/NK7Q8vUcFMeebf9YpB9eF+ATMUuKPJrE7ymF1G4M4G+hfF64FGBY0jgN6cG 7BgVEti8kvYZxey0gxB+0cRP66POzpi3Y/w5vES0GtWdvKNggaC1rQO4udjJbcCk LdXKOAULBUTvlMX/7mYq2aYuQUtbhcsrO75zLgkPBO3R2tOUQaODadlEm6PDcLTL lKYNSpWpmrjCW2nPSsAcmjVi1GskPQG/gIVkuuH8gacNTeoLbbMNyXUg/Ov4BVyi Q/vP/hxEfgOESAr7ONHM+HzJzItyKELKFjYTjQDvqF4lF0TthENreBthnmSzIreF WwYMWMFNb8EH =wC7Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-CUpPS+DZjnDfYzxCLLwV--