From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7D02139694 for ; Sun, 7 May 2017 20:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4C4821C217; Sun, 7 May 2017 20:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7333321C038 for ; Sun, 7 May 2017 20:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A4A713416DA; Sun, 7 May 2017 20:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1494189051.1963.6.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] arches.desc & GLEP 72 (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Items for Council Agenda, May 14) From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 07 May 2017 22:30:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: <2792793.3ddXxQ3v2e@pinacolada> References: <0ac908a7-9875-f629-fa0c-0c85945e1185@gentoo.org> <2845173.ZUnlo4BlrU@pinacolada> <1494088508.26467.1.camel@gentoo.org> <2792793.3ddXxQ3v2e@pinacolada> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-XPT79qbcuRHJgUTdq642" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: c02b9fb9-efaa-42a6-910f-f25da0d34b21 X-Archives-Hash: 85f0a9ea27e03030db40f23ed1ae9358 --=-XPT79qbcuRHJgUTdq642 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On sob, 2017-05-06 at 19:36 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2017, 18:35:08 CEST schrieb Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny: > >=20 > > 2. I can't say I like using magical keywords like 'testing' > > and 'unstable'; they're going to be confusing long-term (compare: > > the mess with stable/exp/dev for profiles). But I don't have a very goo= d > > idea how to it better right now. >=20 > Well, I pulled the two terms that are tradidionally used for ~arch...=20 > "testing" and "unstable". Testing implied to me that a transition is taki= ng=20 > place, so that went to the "mixed state".=20 >=20 Oh, one more thing that I've forgot to mention in the original mail. It'd probably be useful to solve two disjoint problems: a. whether CI should enforce correct depgraph and how, b. whether we should request stabilizing packages. i.e. we need to be able to express differently the two possible scenarios: 1. stable depgraph is broken but we want to fix it (i.e. should CC the arch on stablereqs), 2. stable depgraph is broken and we don't care (i.e. we don't CC the arch and drop old stable versions if necessary). --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-XPT79qbcuRHJgUTdq642 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEXr8g+Zb7PCLMb8pAur8dX/jIEQoFAlkPg/xfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDVF QkYyMEY5OTZGQjNDMjJDQzZGQ0E0MEJBQkYxRDVGRjhDODExMEEACgkQur8dX/jI EQpcXQ/6A6KYfyM3SAr5L8z10oaNZZqmJ8kk0Wc8PERXMAzQn3xrPGaZ3OlmbVE9 4X5GeoyubuJlzd1eeO8vrD5VWXdwZUomMlB1VUv6HwriJZFKcHuH2eRxGMgIEIOq lZVlCaUkMZCQ2mc7xYlhEDg4IlGGmQKvTbK9Z6VvYz2iu/imSikpzimeLEbhMihC sNCZW2Egs2zDWDr4MNFxjiqtkFst6iHdK7bumPgIAfllz5lFw4kUqjR167T6paNw g92o0HCf0sFT80E6V3CfmE5jlP5JQow2KRU1F8Wc8FEJgZcD/OzKhrEdmiesHu/o YQIJDQzs6aJ/aQ6I8M/xUCOO/vi3kf8X6nAmxfDUq7uriKBujj2mdg9ZRCpgBWrd vwxzIhLRdlHES7jmbDxVyu/TFAWtqQIqDpmWVAoKJF6YUkWjENaa0OQegJUgwWwc zKOPI+MlFmPJjv23pkfnOkDCUaoXtUhC8rHY6SksXG2dKQRvt+mERhEw1mv1Ip8M cL7CRVCKWFct083aDoFJkfRPnG5G5afdhpfVeQ/L/j5heD26PQr+zxuPkrQq7tC1 tXDA0DTpapzoDTfku3Gd5oVmwh4F/8vh/+NgAYZTorQY+SOiKINb2LCoU8zW8umC 1YsieZ9LLtHJSLfXfcuO+5mHMdG0z4TJ2ic2AElPxfvwGzpTjrk= =CCdq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-XPT79qbcuRHJgUTdq642--