From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874BA1387FD for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFC36E094F; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57A8AE0942 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localnet (unknown [114.91.168.239]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: patrick) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 702DD33FC39 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 08:43:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Patrick Lauer To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2014-04-08 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:43:20 +0800 Message-ID: <1465789.1S5fJRlZoR@localhost> User-Agent: KMail/4.12.3 (Linux/3.13.1-gentoo; KDE/4.12.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20140330103342.76108bfb@pomiot.lan> References: <53342A5F.70903@gentoo.org> <20140330103342.76108bfb@pomiot.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: f801c334-9e9c-475a-9c5f-0bca5cf7caf2 X-Archives-Hash: d92ac744d9eedb4fa61fa63fd7228dc0 On Sunday 30 March 2014 10:33:42 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > Dnia 2014-03-27, o godz. 09:40:47 >=20 > "Anthony G. Basile" napisa=C5=82(a): > > The council will be meeing on April 8, 2014 at 1900 UTC. Please br= ing > > forward any agenda items you would like discussed. >=20 > Before we get into another revert war from patrick, I'd like to raise= > the following item: >=20 > - use of ISO/IEC binary prefixes vs ambiguous 'mega' prefixes >=20 > Quick explanation: >=20 > ISO/IEC prefixes [1,2]: KiB (kibibyte), MiB (mebi-), GiB (gibi-) > -- unambiguously 2^10, 2^20, 2^30 >=20 > 'old' prefixes: kB (kilobyte), MB (mega-), GB (giga-) > -- can mean 10^3 or 2^10 etc. depending on author's intention > -- SI people tend to use 10^N for consistency with other units >=20 base-10 bytes make no sense. A "3TB" disk has 2.7TB actual capacity since it's three trillion bytes,= and=20 not something that makes sense in a base-2 world.=20 It'd be a lot easier to ignore the marketingbytes used for storage and=20= consistently use bits and bytes in base-2 ... (which is the natural way= for=20 bits to end up as they are inherently binary) ... but it looks like people prefer inventing some horribad wordenings = like=20 maybebytes to avoid this confusion. I strongly recommend not using base-10 bytes or inventing new words to = work=20 around the ambiguity created by stupid people, and I hope I don't have = to=20 tolerate having a three trellobyte disk. 'cause that would be very sad.= And=20 then I'd have to complain every single time I see that stupidity printe= d out.