From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C42313877A for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E762DE07F5; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost01a.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01a.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590B4E0762 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.3.120.142] (helo=NeddySeagoon_Static) by smarthost01a.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1X3kz9-0009ri-6o for gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 11:51:59 +0000 Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 12:51:38 +0100 From: Roy Bamford Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council 2014 / 2015 election To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: (from seemantk@gmail.com on Fri Jul 4 20:15:55 2014) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.4.14 Message-Id: <1404647517.1888.0@NeddySeagoon_Static> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-3il+tw/OyFQKxCY/akru" X-Originating-smarthost01a-IP: [62.3.120.142] X-Archives-Salt: 9d59a2f7-5fd0-4456-aa32-f2857cbf25a8 X-Archives-Hash: a9f4add07dc2d2a047c2f4ca7723ae04 --=-3il+tw/OyFQKxCY/akru Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2014.07.04 20:15, Seemant Kulleen wrote: > Hi Denis, >=20 [snip] >=20 > Having said all of that, there's a LOT of baggage around Gentoo's > leadership. You (Denis) know from our private conversations that that > baggage started around 2002/3 and that I've been carrying a lot of > emotional baggage as well. >=20 > But this is 2014. This is now, this is a time that we can shed > baggage, > because it serves no other purpose than to weigh us down. There's > nobody > left to blame. >=20 [snip] >=20 > Seemant >=20 >=20 Seemant, ... but Gentoo has had no leadership since the council was formed ...=20 or even since drobbins left the first time. The council is a technical disputes resolution body, that infers that=20 its forbidden to lead, since setting a direction (leadership) falls way=20 outside the councils terms of reference. Probably just as well, since you can't lead by committee. You just get=20 a mess like the EU. --=20 Regards, Roy Bamford (Neddyseagoon) a member of elections gentoo-ops forum-mods trustees = --=-3il+tw/OyFQKxCY/akru Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAABAgAGBQJTuThcAAoJEFZf0zWq3OcJ3IwP+gIbEfHhgUvKxyU0YfXJ5IfL xlmf1opG2AntYBNw8AAa12aT20QhNtzBrTTi6BSLjbX65SDaVPXCxHXH01knY1Qo wsNkktwkxA45c67pRoXk5DCRP32IBecde3AwQpBbHizeuQ9u6CYjd+709mi2WXky f/kc2/F+rdY4j9WfWtarLF51L5UQd/3RAWI/SGEpZeFsz6NZ6ifg6kAvLONVmYov xhQ7KAFuH63i/4oEeR/APnGtHP/NjmzHawrYpqiwLu9WV/sfc2FcA2TskkN+XkeN ogWOXL7GQ6TZIqHCK2Qg9dlslLzj3Qa17S29ldmwV1mxMdISWpPu5Ej0mlZBFhIT yVxsbzV5EXuA71pfbtWT6IjBm906gwfbaQUiDWA3BKdHn2RrEDnJkIU3P4CpRUAB /qDoN94MpRGlR05lDWtWn0jO1WDEIPChknFqouZisrdmpTAyjT+5ihK2L4d+H12j /0o3ER8C6WqRD1aZbZF5y4jHHt0B/QvRPUrP2d9GQDrCA2oy3ejp/CBYCoq2AWGB zW8yw3ouupbGLXcpPiL72in3rHryeoNMtlox3nIa+4WnhEcsDg80+UySP0W76PY+ n8SXAlup+/FyrCZY5MgqkKtuC1emOGZ/+PL5BWO4W2UVtPHvf4Xem4fM7BON79Qa W4dMZ138GyqMUHnS5sc8 =c8gS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-3il+tw/OyFQKxCY/akru--