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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Should DevRel members be in Council?
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:42:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1313332921.2962.1@NeddySeagoon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_nGVBTzT2-Dmwv2C5jT5gVeqaP6gXUQvc=BNtt53iNLcw@mail.gmail.com> (from rich@thefreemanclan.net on Sun Aug 14 12:25:08 2011)

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On 2011.08.14 12:25, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Markos Chandras 
> <hwoarang@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> > Quite a few of you know that Council acts as a court in case a
> developer
> > has unresolved disputes with Devrel or when he is not happy with a
> > Devrel's decision. The problem is that having the same people in 
> the
> > Council and in Devrel makes no sense since the same people will 
> vote
> > twice on that matter.
> 
[snip]

> For these reasons, I see no reason with having overlapping membership
> - we're a community and we govern ourselves.  The Council is elected
> by the community to speak for the community, and they're allowed to
> speak even if they've done so already.

The Council is elected by the members of the community holding a 
@gentoo.org email address.  Thats a very small subset of the Gentoo 
community ... but maybe we should open voting to the entire Gentoo 
community ? 

There are practical problems with that of course.

> 
> For the same sorts of reasons I also see no issue with having
> overlapping Council and Trustee membership (obviously allowing that
> the Bylaws would need to be amended if a majority of foundation
> members agreed with me).  I do see the value in having more
> participation, but not the requirement.

I see the council members as officers of the Foundation, not directors 
of the Foundation. The two roles are different and should be spilt.  
Indeed, its a failing of the Foundation today that the directors and 
officers are the same people.

> 
> Rich
> 
> 

-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
gentoo-ops
forum-mods
trustees

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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-14 11:12 [gentoo-project] Should DevRel members be in Council? Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 11:25 ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-14 14:42   ` Roy Bamford [this message]
2011-08-14 14:52     ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-14 16:24       ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-18  0:46       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-14 19:01     ` Mike Frysinger
2011-08-14 11:27 ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-14 11:31   ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 11:50     ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-14 11:38 ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-14 12:19 ` Thomas Sachau
2011-08-14 12:26   ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 13:14     ` Thomas Sachau
2011-08-14 13:42       ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 14:05         ` Petteri Räty
2011-08-14 14:11           ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-14 14:42             ` Petteri Räty
2011-08-14 19:01 ` Mike Frysinger
2011-08-15  2:19   ` Samuli Suominen
2011-08-15  2:46     ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-18  1:25     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-16 18:28 ` William Hubbs
2011-08-16 19:17   ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-16 20:46     ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-17  2:46       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-08-16 19:32   ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-18  1:09 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto

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