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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:24:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1312309445.2901.3@NeddySeagoon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_=vSGbuCrg+nJxpHKhuFqqum-YGb=-gX-uiaW9VoMu-pA@mail.gmail.com> (from rich0@gentoo.org on Tue Aug  2 16:49:17 2011)

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On 2011.08.02 16:49, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 11:42 AM, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> >  But, you are saying that the council has to approve changes for
> glep
> >  39 before they can come to a vote. This would mean that say a
> majority
> >  of developers doesn't like something in glep 39, but the council
> >  doesn't approve the change. That change will never come to a vote.
> In
> >  other words, the council has control of the rules that govern it.
> Is
> >  that what you are intending?
> >
> 
> Arguably the current rules are pretty ambiguous for the council.  The
> rules are fairly explicit for the Foundation, where there are rules
> about having membership-convened meetings/etc.
> 
[snip]
> 
> Rich
> 
Team,

The trustees are legally accountable and responsible for the operation 
of the Gentoo Foundation Inc.  Some things in the bylaws are there to 
comply with statutes.

The Gentoo council has no legal standing whatsoever, which I have 
already said (at FOSEDEM) makes me a little nervous as a trustee, since 
the council makes decisions on behalf of Gentoo that the Foundation 
would be held both accountable and responsible for. There have been no 
issues with that, yet.

Maybe its time to reorganise Gentoo along standard corporate lines 
again, as it was before drobbins left. If we go in that direction, the 
council becomes a technical committee that is part of the Foundation. 
GLEP39 is no longer needed and the Foundation bylaws are amended to 
reflect the new structure.

Such a major change would probably need to be put to a vote of 
Foundation members as we would be changing the make up of what is 
legally a company. (Members are equivelent to share/stock holders) 
Note: Foundation members and Gentoo developers are two intersecting 
sets.

This gives rise to all sorts of interesting questions, opportunities 
possibilities and challenges. Please discuss.

-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
gentoo-ops
forum-mods
trustees

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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-01 18:47 [gentoo-project] Council discuss: overlapping council terms of two years Fabian Groffen
2011-08-01 20:25 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2011-08-01 23:24 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-02  6:36   ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-02 15:42     ` William Hubbs
2011-08-02 15:49       ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-02 18:24         ` Roy Bamford [this message]
2011-08-02 18:51           ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-02 21:50           ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-02 22:21             ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-02 22:37               ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-03 20:21                 ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-04 20:10               ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-04 22:31                 ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-05  7:51                   ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-05 10:50                     ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-09 14:01                       ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-09 17:23                         ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-02 16:15       ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-03  2:26         ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-03  8:13           ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-04 20:08         ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-05  6:58           ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-05  7:49             ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-05 10:30               ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-08-05 10:40                 ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-09 14:05                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-09 17:25                   ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-09 17:34                     ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-12 13:12                 ` [gentoo-project] " Steven J Long
2011-08-12 17:58                   ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-02 17:58   ` [gentoo-project] " Roy Bamford
2011-08-03  2:39     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-03 20:42       ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-04 20:06         ` Donnie Berkholz
2011-08-04 22:19           ` Roy Bamford
2011-08-05 10:33             ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-05 10:49               ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-05 11:01                 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-05 12:35                   ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-05 13:17                     ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-05 13:35                       ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-05 13:49                         ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-05 13:44                       ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-05 13:54                         ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-05 16:32                           ` Patrick Lauer
2011-08-05 16:47                             ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-05 19:22                               ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-05 19:31                                 ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-05 18:36                             ` Matt Turner
2011-08-05 18:43                               ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-06  3:11                                 ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-06 10:00                                   ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-06 11:49                                     ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-06 11:59                                       ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-06 12:24                                         ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-06 12:31                                           ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-06 12:47                                         ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-06 12:54                                           ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-06 14:16                                             ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-06 14:36                                               ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-06 14:54                                                 ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-06 15:01                                                   ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-06 15:06                                                     ` Fabian Groffen
2011-08-12 20:43                                       ` Mike Frysinger
2011-08-12 20:52                                         ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-08-06 15:33                                     ` Matt Turner
2011-08-06 15:42                                       ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-06 15:53                                         ` Matt Turner
2011-08-06 15:58                                           ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-06 23:59                                             ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2011-08-07  6:16                                             ` Tim Harder
2011-08-07 11:08                                               ` Rich Freeman
2011-08-05 16:33                           ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-08-05 16:56                             ` Markos Chandras
2011-08-09 14:10                         ` Donnie Berkholz

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