From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M9Yxr-0006ba-3l for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 28 May 2009 06:19:43 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1DB58E03E7; Thu, 28 May 2009 06:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.tmcs.ch (113.245.131.213.static.inetbone.net [213.131.245.113]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D25E03E7 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 06:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (121-158.3-85.cust.bluewin.ch [85.3.158.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.tmcs.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DE972149B8BC; Thu, 28 May 2009 08:19:39 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Spam reduction proposal - switching lists to a web-form for subscription From: Tiziano =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= To: "Robin H. Johnson" Cc: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: References: <1243454459.3480.2@NeddySeagoon> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-3tm2gOpQh1rmefJh4Vo6" Organization: Gentoo Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 08:19:34 +0200 Message-Id: <1243491574.10450.31.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1.1 X-Archives-Salt: 81c1271b-99d8-4376-ada0-c0411e57b335 X-Archives-Hash: a05035aba383459f860d59462e4cb6eb --=-3tm2gOpQh1rmefJh4Vo6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Mittwoch, den 27.05.2009, 14:27 -0700 schrieb Robin H. Johnson: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:00:54PM +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > > Is this a spam outburst that will blow over ? > No, it's been growing in intensity for the last 6 months. >=20 > > How will visually imparied users subscribe ? > > If that is still possible, I'm not against such a move. > I specifically stated recaptcha [1], as it includes an audio recognition > task for blind users, as well as rate limiting abuse attempts. >=20 > 1. http://recaptcha.net/ >=20 An alternative (which works quiet well with my blog): have an empty css-hidden input field in the form and check for it being empty when submitting the form. Bots will fill it out since they ignore CSS mostly. Advantage: it's hidden for all users and for those where it isn't (Screen-Readers) you can add a normally hidden description stating this is a spam-catching-field intentionally left blank. --=20 Tiziano M=C3=BCller Gentoo Linux Developer, Council Member Areas of responsibility: Samba, PostgreSQL, CPP, Python, sysadmin, GLEP Editor E-Mail : dev-zero@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : F327 283A E769 2E36 18D5 4DE2 1B05 6A63 AE9C 1E30 --=-3tm2gOpQh1rmefJh4Vo6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkoeLPYACgkQGwVqY66cHjB/gQCfYwPMQQrygSLFybml2ZUemoqJ X3wAnR14ouTBNp+8PcWUasYsztfNoIow =E5RK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-3tm2gOpQh1rmefJh4Vo6--