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From: Peter Volkov <pva@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:05:02 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1211130303.16380.44.camel@camobap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1211123775.5569.8.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com>

В Вск, 18/05/2008 в 13:20 +0200, Denis Dupeyron пишет: 
> That's one point of view. Another is that some policies have been
> written in different times for different reasons, and may need to be
> clarified or even updated to suit better the present situation. That's
> the problem with time, it doesn't stand still and things happen
> leading to situations changing.

I agree that policies should be updated. But not retroactively.


В Вск, 18/05/2008 в 11:16 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. пишет:
> Ok, so are we following common sense or policy?

Policy whatever that states and common sense in other cases...

> If it's common sense, why would it have been so hard to clearly state
> and document the above?

As I understand Ciaran for historical reasons. But what we should do in
case less then 50% of council attend the meeting is there.

> Policies are stated, not assumed. We have way to many undocumented,
> word of mouth, common sense policies. If we are going to run around
> enforcing things. It must be documented, not assumed.

Sure. And I think that somebody should suggest council something
concrete on how to update the policy. But this does not change the fact
that what happened was at times we had different policy.

> FYI, IMHO common sense says we give them a chance to make up for the
> meeting. Before rush to punishment. So who's common sense is correct per
> policy? Mine or yours?

No, this's not punishment. That's just procedural act we should take to
be sure that policies we thought about work.


Well, too many mails here so I think now I should decrease the noise
here and shut up and wait for council actions.

-- 
Peter.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-18 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20080508233328.GA8896@comet>
2008-05-15 20:49 ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting [WAS: Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008] Donnie Berkholz
2008-05-15 21:05   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-15 21:52     ` Petteri Räty
2008-05-16 16:46       ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-05-16 20:45         ` Richard Freeman
2008-05-16 21:34           ` Ferris McCormick
2008-05-16 22:39             ` Richard Freeman
2008-05-16 22:44               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-17  0:14                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-16 23:38               ` Ferris McCormick
2008-05-17  9:15                 ` Ferris McCormick
2008-05-16 23:11             ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-05-16 23:18               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-16 23:50                 ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-05-16 23:53                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-17  1:12                     ` Richard Freeman
2008-05-17 18:47                       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2008-05-17 19:50                         ` Richard Freeman
2008-05-17 21:12                           ` Alec Warner
2008-05-18  5:30                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-19  1:16                               ` Alec Warner
2008-05-17 22:55                           ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting Josh Sled
2008-05-17 23:46                             ` Simon Cooper
2008-05-18  1:07                               ` Ferris McCormick
     [not found]                               ` <3c32f69c0805171845o7fa80063r3580d4873ba167e@mail.gmail.com>
2008-05-18  1:47                                 ` Łukasz Damentko
2008-05-18  5:02                               ` Mark Loeser
2008-05-18  5:24                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 10:10                                   ` Peter Volkov
2008-05-18 11:20                                     ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-05-18 15:16                                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 17:05                                       ` Peter Volkov [this message]
2008-05-20 12:06                                       ` Jim Ramsay
2008-05-20 14:36                                         ` Ferris McCormick
2008-05-18 10:56                 ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting [WAS: Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008] Wernfried Haas
2008-05-18 15:01                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 15:26                     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 15:31                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 15:40                         ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 15:49                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 16:02                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 16:12                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 16:32                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 16:13                         ` Richard Freeman
2008-05-18 16:18                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 16:38                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 16:44                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 16:55                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 17:12                               ` David Leverton
2008-05-18 16:58                             ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-05-18 16:34                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
     [not found]                     ` <7c612fc60805180829w6b36d17bla6d527f76017dbbd@mail.gmail.com>
2008-05-18 15:30                       ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-05-18 15:34                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 15:40                           ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-05-18 15:44                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 15:42                           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 15:45                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 15:55                               ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 16:05                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-18 16:56                                   ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-18 16:11                           ` Ferris McCormick
2008-05-18 16:24                             ` William L. Thomson Jr.
     [not found]                               ` <20080518181704.GA3560@spoc.mpa.com>
2008-05-18 19:10                                 ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-15 21:27   ` Roy Bamford
2008-05-15 21:30     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-15 21:45       ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-15 22:02         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-15 22:08           ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2008-05-15 21:29   ` Richard Freeman
2008-05-15 21:35     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-05-15 21:38     ` Ferris McCormick
2008-05-15 22:51       ` Richard Freeman
2008-05-16  2:22   ` [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-council] " Luca Barbato
2008-05-17 16:07   ` [gentoo-project] " Peter Volkov
2008-05-17 22:19   ` Roy Bamford
2008-05-17 23:43     ` Denis Dupeyron
2008-05-19  5:21       ` Alistair Bush
2008-05-19 14:39         ` Richard Freeman
2008-05-19 15:07           ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-05-19 19:50           ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2008-05-20  4:57           ` Alistair Bush
2008-05-20  5:08             ` William L. Thomson Jr.

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