From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jxltr-0005NG-0k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 May 2008 16:38:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBD84E05A2; Sun, 18 May 2008 16:38:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D3DE05A2 for ; Sun, 18 May 2008 16:38:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.211] (c-76-18-195-255.hsd1.fl.comcast.net [76.18.195.255]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10B26691A for ; Sun, 18 May 2008 16:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Special meeting [WAS: Council meeting summary for 8 May 2008] From: "William L. Thomson Jr." To: gentoo-project In-Reply-To: <20080518171851.51f7df3d@snowcone> References: <20080508233328.GA8896@comet> <20080515204913.GA22285@comet> <20080515220543.5c5a2c03@snowcone> <482CB0B2.6090702@gentoo.org> <20080516164612.GA14234@comet> <482DF281.6010208@gentoo.org> <20080516213454.538ce4e8@anaconda.krait.us> <7c612fc60805161611w48d9e134m7437c4a29f33d79a@mail.gmail.com> <20080517001849.4802ceec@googlemail.com> <20080518105649.GC17371@basestar> <20080518160110.60840c3e@snowcone> <1211124360.5569.17.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> <20080518163144.312ed2d9@googlemail.com> <483055B9.4080107@gentoo.org> <20080518171851.51f7df3d@snowcone> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-HqVCPwPvkIazFamf9bDI" Organization: Gentoo Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 12:38:14 -0400 Message-Id: <1211128694.5569.91.camel@wlt.obsidian-studios.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0 X-Archives-Salt: 4213b653-9ebc-4e55-852b-d5800195b7db X-Archives-Hash: 151fb3416e45050dc68333647f05912a --=-HqVCPwPvkIazFamf9bDI Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2008-05-18 at 17:18 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 18 May 2008 12:13:45 -0400 > Richard Freeman wrote: > > Uh - perhaps we should save our zealotry for constitutions for some > > time when the Council is actually misbehaving? This really seems > > like a tempest in a teapot. > >=20 > > If the council decided to start holding meetings in private, denied > > any forum for dissent, began booting people merely for disagreeing, > > and began taking the distro in a direction most devs don't like then > > I'd be all for having a gentoo insurrection. >=20 > Oh, I do hope that was said with irony. Funnily enough, the Council > holding meetings in private (ask them about their secret channel on > oftc and their meetings with musikc), denying dissent and booting people > arbitrarily is exactly what lead to them holding the second meeting > that started this discussion. Another very good point. IMHO the CoC falls under the GSC which the trustees/foundation enforces not the council. So they topic at hand for the current council is not of technical nature and thus should not be on their plate. Which the subsequent meeting of a topic/subject that should not fall to them. It's no wonder a technical council, did not show up to a meeting to discuss social issues. Duh ;) Part of the reason I dislike punishment for this so much. This was not a technical meeting, where a major technical decision lie on the table going unresolved. Has this missed meeting effected Gentoo's technical progress in any way shape or form. Other than all of us wasting allot of time discussing BS stuff rather than writing code and/or improving Gentoo technically. --=20 William L. Thomson Jr. amd64/Java/Trustees Gentoo Foundation --=-HqVCPwPvkIazFamf9bDI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkgwW3YACgkQPrChP8zZLyYCaQCfS3DjDGZ3STjYglsnfanLNAZK ig8An1jZz7EoHcyzWfLLJVRS/6Q/Xne/ =dDuY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-HqVCPwPvkIazFamf9bDI-- -- gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org mailing list