From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AD031382C5 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DA12E0B73; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout05.plus.net (avasout05.plus.net [84.93.230.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1A45E0B72 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.147] ([212.159.46.162]) by smtp with ESMTP id lNiHeCGIudFT4lNiIeYU7T; Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:40:46 +0000 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=R5st5+ZX c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=RuViaDnnNG9rfPLW4VJocg==:117 a=RuViaDnnNG9rfPLW4VJocg==:17 a=13zjGPudsaEWiJwPRgMA:9 a=ejcqdL7cdgpzT_cvb54A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=Dp40dCqG4HDIUWkMIXkA:9 a=ONNS8QRKHyMA:10 Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180211224234.GB6747@linux1.home> <23169.22344.839501.980448@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <41f31ee3-d707-e9c6-03b0-fa57543445c7@gentoo.org> <23170.7425.923002.261321@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> From: "M. 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Everitt" Openpgp: id=BA266E0525CFAB101523351B4C30334F93C22371 Message-ID: <0e524e2f-126d-8a35-b5f3-542709c822de@iee.org> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 23:40:41 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23170.7425.923002.261321@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xBcunSE7cXR0gxngtrmkwSwoe2nf0nD7d" X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfC3yXmN72SQZNf8xdbS+8yYXj/KVkmpFPNlorMGpJm+ofsWwZF86+qsZadkPZokT0lqG8GbhODvv7p1sfnFTY6zzjEdibF4fzo/Ay/awkTNCainzW8mT Cagy9b4Enivv5YwWg6ruKaQmOI3mXAjQnJEYtvKBNab1z0eV4m/BsaJa++23rmIz9PEYx+MmHrUjDA== X-Archives-Salt: bf0b86d9-e002-4e0d-9a63-67a87515d90e X-Archives-Hash: bf47932f169be42b876ee7c7aa45d5e0 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --xBcunSE7cXR0gxngtrmkwSwoe2nf0nD7d Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ifiOQ1Ix8ABMIo5FXpZj0IbCTw8REPuhn"; protected-headers="v1" From: "M. J. Everitt" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <0e524e2f-126d-8a35-b5f3-542709c822de@iee.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals References: <20180211224234.GB6747@linux1.home> <23169.22344.839501.980448@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <41f31ee3-d707-e9c6-03b0-fa57543445c7@gentoo.org> <23170.7425.923002.261321@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <23170.7425.923002.261321@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> --ifiOQ1Ix8ABMIo5FXpZj0IbCTw8REPuhn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-GB On 12/02/18 23:02, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Can you provide us with an example when such a scenario has happened > in the past 12 years of council, or is the above purely hypothetical? > Because in the latter case it is not an actual problem that needs to > be solved. > > It is not a game of Nomic that we're playing here, but we are trying > to run a distro. IMHO precluding council members from participating in > projects isn't helpful. Or do we really want a council that is sitting > in an ivory tower, completely detached from the daily distro work? > Uhm, what's the difference .. the council already live in their own land separate from most of the developers, and definitely from the user community at large ? Or at least, such is the perception .. 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