From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C12E139694 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 18:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36AE9E0EC0; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 18:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from avasout06.plus.net (avasout06.plus.net [212.159.14.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D184EE0E61 for ; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 18:48:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.6.147] ([212.159.46.162]) by avasout06 with smtp id mioK1v0083Vx3VQ01ioL33; Wed, 19 Jul 2017 19:48:21 +0100 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=GetnpUfL c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=RuViaDnnNG9rfPLW4VJocg==:117 a=RuViaDnnNG9rfPLW4VJocg==:17 a=13zjGPudsaEWiJwPRgMA:9 a=7mOBRU54AAAA:8 a=cmn8XwR4xyJnr0kWhaoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=OedUK6LO8A7PQuzv1oAA:9 a=ONNS8QRKHyMA:10 a=wa9RWnbW_A1YIeRBVszw:22 Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] The problem of defunct and undermanned projects in Gentoo To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org References: <1500239562.11529.1.camel@gentoo.org> <20170719075622.293bff90@katipo2.lan> <20170719092317.7ba9beee@katipo2.lan> <6b7c14b1-1af6-4f10-a88b-4a02bd90705b@iee.org> <1500414026.1530.2.camel@gentoo.org> <98b8bfba-fc5b-0299-e8fc-ba69440e1943@gentoo.org> From: "M. J. Everitt" Openpgp: id=BA266E0525CFAB101523351B4C30334F93C22371 Message-ID: <082eb115-d47e-01fa-2ed5-2616e74965e8@iee.org> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 19:48:10 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Project discussion list X-BeenThere: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2aG0vCFBgqhsdB1N7kswPdLAokg8vbam2" X-Archives-Salt: 762b3811-8d5c-4515-98fc-32892ef67c70 X-Archives-Hash: 253e978519f703d4af4a82c1430abb7b This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2aG0vCFBgqhsdB1N7kswPdLAokg8vbam2 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="EMPq9I2eDqQqujW1VAtRGDQWFpi5reIbn" From: "M. J. Everitt" To: gentoo-project@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <082eb115-d47e-01fa-2ed5-2616e74965e8@iee.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] The problem of defunct and undermanned projects in Gentoo References: <1500239562.11529.1.camel@gentoo.org> <20170719075622.293bff90@katipo2.lan> <20170719092317.7ba9beee@katipo2.lan> <6b7c14b1-1af6-4f10-a88b-4a02bd90705b@iee.org> <1500414026.1530.2.camel@gentoo.org> <98b8bfba-fc5b-0299-e8fc-ba69440e1943@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: --EMPq9I2eDqQqujW1VAtRGDQWFpi5reIbn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19/07/17 19:22, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrot= e: >> OK, so here's the flipside of this. I'm a member of a few projects >> because I help take care of just a couple of things or maybe even just= >> a gentoo-carried patch. Being a project member is necessary as I do >> want to have the commit rights on the project, but I'm -not- nor ever >> meant to be a general project member or overall maintainer or dev. >> > You left out another use case - wanting to follow mail on the project > alias. I could see cases where somebody isn't interest in a project > in general but works on something related and benefits from seeing the > emails to the alias. > I would argue that's a better use for a mailing list than an alias then =2E. or at least some kind of 'observer' status in a project .. I'm not sure from my observations that being on a team alias requires you to be a project member .. I'm really not sure what the benefits of a closed alias are, apart from keeping communications internal, which may be equally well-served being in the public domain .. unless of course it really is confined to "hi, I'm tackling bug 12345 this week, thanks,bye" type communications ... 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