From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-portage-dev+bounces-2459-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1NAYfp-0000w3-9z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:45:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9F2DE0E7F for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35EFE0B4E for <gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D1167A32 for <gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:24:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.551 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mmcEmVcHz2eb for <gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D6767A05 for <gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NAWT9-0007WT-KP for gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:24:15 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.21.207]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:24:15 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org>; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:24:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-portage-dev] sets remove support replacement? Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:23:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <pan.2009.11.17.22.23.53@cox.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-portage-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-portage-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-portage-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-portage-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Sender: news <news@ger.gmane.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: f822d360-d525-4007-bf2c-66436e235988 X-Archives-Hash: ebd66c35c5a517193352eb1edbc9291f I noticed that sets remove support wasn't working any longer, when=20 depclean all of a sudden decided most of kde4 was no longer in world! A=20 bug search reveals=20 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D291414 which references http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D253802#c7 which says that's deliberate. OK, both KDE and I knew it wasn't set in stone back when we began using=20 it, but now I'm stuck looking for a workable replacement. Here's my=20 usage scenario: I want to install /some/ of the packages from the sets in the kde-testing= =20 overlay, but not all of them. Furthermore, as upgrades come and go, I=20 want to be notified of any /new/ additions to the sets, so I can choose=20 whether I want them or not. What I was doing to now was using the sets in kde-testing as a base, with= =20 a second set configured as a remove set from the first. This way, I got=20 the packages I wanted from the current configuration, and as new packages= =20 were added, they showed up as new (as opposed to upgrade), and I could=20 grep the kde-testing sets to see where they were coming from, do an=20 esearch or google on the package to see what it was, and decide whether=20 to let it install, or add it to my remove set as appropriate. Now remove sets don't work. What are the options? The most direct is to= =20 simply create my own set listing everything I want, but that won't=20 account for anything added to the sets as they appear upstream over=20 time. What to do about that? I suppose I could create an update script that diffs the new kde-testing=20 set against a copy I stashed somewhere, thus showing me the differences,=20 and that I could then update my own set and the stashed copy of the=20 upstream set accordingly. Is that the best option under the=20 circumstances, or does portage provide some other replacement for the=20 functionality I just lost in that regard, with the loss of remove set=20 functionality? Anyway, looking forward to when the sets feature is in stable portage, as= =20 it's sure nice to have... even if it /was/ nicer before this feature=20 disappeared... =3D:^s But it's on the way to better, I know that. =3D:^) --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman