From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FJ9YC-0000u3-BI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:27:01 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2EDPuAE005650; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:25:56 GMT Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.193]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5.20060308/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2EDPs0i006608 for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:25:55 GMT Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l35so1084306nfa for ; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:25:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=C8CTBZUuA0u924r644Qy4EcKZNZEmOvR1SNQXDRQ/MRSpOYTfF9SWSUqi08VZt8+yZMdF0UUxzC+proS5WTuDBw5Pt2uvedm00WK3X5mCd8/+Vd5kqAGH4RESZoLWeNMQwjeTUOM25fVq5DrjmN7oplctEjOFbd8BTn/kAR4j6Q= Received: by 10.49.20.15 with SMTP id x15mr1408366nfi; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.29.4 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:25:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:25:52 +0200 From: tvali To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Few things, which imho would make portage better In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4416A4C1.6090903@gentoo.org> X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id k2EDPs0i006608 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id k2EDPuBW005650 X-Archives-Salt: ac90e893-a7bc-4085-8f0f-a78b40e7e847 X-Archives-Hash: 48fbbcbb685f848834cca95185aa2724 Thank you much! This is what i meant about searching :) Would it be now good to mix this esearch code with emerge, then adding fields to db and making emerge treebuilding fast, too? Or is there some utility to emerge, which does all that? 2006/3/14, Devon Miller : > Try "emerge esearch". Replace "emerge --sync" with "esync", "emerge -s"= with > "esearch", and "emerge -S" with "esearch -S". > After running "emerge --update ...", run "eupdatedb". > > As for dependency tree: "emerge --pretend --tree world" > Or, to also check additional dependencies: "emerge --deep --pretend --t= ree > world" > And, if you want to see how *everything* relates: "emerge --deep --empt= ytree > --pretend --tree" > > dcm > > > > On 3/14/06, tvali wrote: > > > > Another place, where it would be good, is that it could interact well= with > GUI and it's Apply button. > > > > Another thing, what would be imho improved, is the speed of following > functions: > > * emerge -s, emerge -S > > They should be cached somehow. > > > > Also, i think that when speaking about *speed* of portage, which is i= mho > notably slow right now (speed of searching, building trees and so on), > sql-support should be considered. In /usr/portage/, i see many folders = and > files, which tend to contain one or two words, lists of hashes and so o= n. > Actually i see relational database there. With many caches and other > optimizations it could be tuned fast, but having SQL doing all that, it > would be achieved very simply (maybe it would be a jump to have all lin= ux > configurations in one SQL "filesystem"? ...ok, just fantasy:)) > > > > There are several small and simple SQL databases. With such tool, big > parts of portage become unnessecary, but it's speed will become much fa= ster. > This should be optional if one uses some tiny sql, mysql or big cluster= ed > sql with nas and load-balancer, but by default some tiny version of SQL > should be built. > > > > Also, i currently dont see a possibility to see dependency tree of > installed package. > > > > > > > > 2006/3/14, tvali < qtvali@gmail.com>: > > > I did think about some priorities too, so that it could be perfect = for > me. > > > > > > It should be possible to add package with a priority. I will give y= ou an > use case and explanation how i would use portage. > > > > > > emerge --justadd kdebase-meta kicker --priority 10 > > > emerge --justadd kdenetwork-meta kdeutils-meta kdeadmin-meta --prio= rity > 9 > > > emerge --justadd kdeedu-meta kdetoys-meta kdegames-meta kdeartwork-= meta > --priority 1 > > > emerge --justadd koffice-meta kdegraphics-meta kdemultimedia-meta > --priority 5 > > > emerge --justadd kdewebdev-meta kdevelop htmltidy kompare cervisia > --priority 7 > > > emerge --justadd kdepim-meta --priority 3 > > > emerge --justadd kdeaddons-meta kde-meta --priority 20 > > > emerge --changepriority kdeaddons-meta kde-meta --priority 0 > > > > > > Now, when i run emerge --update, it should: > > > > > > * Sort packages in such order that packages with highest priority w= ould > be installed as soon as possible > > > * Start installing > > > * If something goes wrong, then skip this package and all, which de= pend > on it. This should be optional, if those, which dont depend on it, but = are > needed by same package, will stay in their positions (go to end of same > priority packages) or go to end. > > > > > > When i need to use my computer and need much resources, i will pres= s > ctrl-c, use it, then start (continue) emerge --update. > > > > > > > > > 2006/3/14, tvali : > > > > > > > 2006/3/14, Simon Stelling : > > > > > > > > > tvali wrote: > > > > > > * Add package to "world" checking all dependencies, but not > emerging > > > > > > * Remove package from "world" without unmerging > > > > > > > > > > Uhm, why would you want that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On my computer, building takes several hours on some packages. I = have > used it in such way that it builds in several windows on the same time,= but > i guess that that's not at all the best practice, especially with some > combinations of packages. So i would like to add all packages, seeing a= ll > blocks and inter dependencies, then start building when ready (and go o= ut of > home, when it builds, and be sure that it will do it's best when i'm aw= ay). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Save all important messages into file instead of beeping (i= may > be away > > > > > > from home); optionally replay them at end of update > > > > > > > > > > elog can do this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will check out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * When updating or installing new package, if something goes > wrong, still > > > > > > emerge other packages, which havent failed packages as > dependencies -- in my > > > > > > case, for example, when i do --update, for example, then the = fact > that > > > > > > update of first package fails does not definitely mean that i= dont > want to > > > > > > update others > > > > > > > > > > --resume > > > > > > > > > > > > I know --resume, but that's not what i meant. > > > > > > > > Imagine the situation: > > > > emerge -p package1 package2 > > > > > > > > part1 (needed by package1) > > > > part2 (needed by part3) > > > > part3 (needed by package2) > > > > part4 (needed by package2) > > > > part5 (needed by both package1 and package2) > > > > package1 > > > > package2 > > > > > > > > now i start "emerge package1 package2" and go to work (or sleep o= r > party or sauna). > > > > > > > > part2 fails -- some bug or misconfiguration. > > > > > > > > currently it means that when i came back home, i see that part1 i= s > built, but nothing more and 4-5 hours are actually just wasted. > > > > > > > > There should be a way to have all those built when i came home: > > > > > > > > part1 (needed by package1) > > > > part4 (needed by package2) > > > > part5 (needed by both package1 and package2) > > > > package1 > > > > > > > > There should be an error message listing all others. Also, i woul= d add > them to world and then emerge so that --update would try to emerge them > again, asking me about all previously failed packages when i start it, = if i > want to retry this time (yes, no, all, none). > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Simon Stelling > > > > > Gentoo/AMD64 Developer > > > > > -- > > > > > gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > tvali > > > > (e-mail: " qtvali@gmail.com"; msn: " qtvali@gmail.com"; > > > > icq: "317-492-912") > > > > > > > > =DChe eesti internetifirma lehel kohtasin tsitaati: > > > > If you don't do it excellently, dont do it at all. Because if it'= s not > excellent, it won't be profitable or fun, and if you're not in business= for > fun or profit, what the hell are you doing here? > > > > Robert Townsend > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > tvali > > > (e-mail: " qtvali@gmail.com"; msn: "qtvali@gmail.com"; > > > icq: "317-492-912") > > > > > > =DChe eesti internetifirma lehel kohtasin tsitaati: > > > If you don't do it excellently, dont do it at all. Because if it's = not > excellent, it won't be profitable or fun, and if you're not in business= for > fun or profit, what the hell are you doing here? > > > Robert Townsend > > > > > > > > -- > > tvali > > (e-mail: "qtvali@gmail.com"; msn: " qtvali@gmail.com"; > > icq: "317-492-912") > > > > =DChe eesti internetifirma lehel kohtasin tsitaati: > > If you don't do it excellently, dont do it at all. Because if it's no= t > excellent, it won't be profitable or fun, and if you're not in business= for > fun or profit, what the hell are you doing here? > > Robert Townsend > > -- tvali (e-mail: "qtvali@gmail.com"; msn: "qtvali@gmail.com"; icq: "317-492-912") =DChe eesti internetifirma lehel kohtasin tsitaati: If you don't do it excellently, dont do it at all. Because if it's not excellent, it won't be profitable or fun, and if you're not in business for fun or profit, what the hell are you doing here? Robert Townsend --=20 gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org mailing list