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From: Alec Warner <antarus@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Joakim Tjernlund <Joakim.Tjernlund@infinera.com>,
	"mgorny@gentoo.org" <mgorny@gentoo.org>,
	 "grobian@gentoo.org" <grobian@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] In what phase are file "merged"?
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 13:53:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAr7Pr9zwB6Rs6=6vVHHpVkY9x6+dbRWeD1WfYUqAy291HxF=g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <u7dgzw6aq@gentoo.org>

On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 9:23 PM Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Fri, 06 Aug 2021, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 13:33 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2021-06-23 at 12:40 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >> > I don't think that the ebuild can rely on any particular status of
> >> > the new package in pkg_*rm (of the old package), or the status of
> >> > the old package in pkg_*inst (of the new package).
> >>
> >> I would even say that it can't rely on the particular status of the
> >> old package in any case, if it's meant to be removed.  In particular,
> >> its dependencies can be unmerged before the package itself.
>
> > Stubled ove this mail again and noticed "its dependencies can be
> > unmerged before the package itself" stmt. That does not make sense to
> > me. Deps should be unmerged after any pkg that depends on them?
>
> A popular workflow is "emerge -c -p" followed by "emerge -C" on entries
> of the list shown. IIUC emerge -C doesn't do any dependency resolution,
> therefore ebuilds cannot rely on any removal order.

Not quite sure I follow. Let's assume I have A -> B -> C.

Is it legal for A to call a binary packaged in A in A's pkg_prerm?
If yes, then B and C have to be on the livefs at least until A's
pkg_prerm has run; right?; otherwise if we unmerged B or C before then
we might break A's binaries?

-A

>
> Ulrich


      reply	other threads:[~2021-08-06 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-22 23:11 [gentoo-portage-dev] In what phase are file "merged"? Joakim Tjernlund
2021-06-23  6:47 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-06-23  7:08   ` Fabian Groffen
2021-06-23 10:40     ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-06-23 11:33       ` Michał Górny
2021-08-05 22:14         ` Joakim Tjernlund
2021-08-06  4:22           ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-06 20:53             ` Alec Warner [this message]

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