From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5470 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2004 17:45:44 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 24 Oct 2004 17:45:44 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CLmR6-0007en-Lk for arch-gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:45:44 +0000 Received: (qmail 3338 invoked by uid 89); 24 Oct 2004 17:45:41 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-portage-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail Reply-To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 12204 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2004 17:45:40 +0000 Message-ID: <417BEA00.5090606@libero.it> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:44:32 +0200 From: andrea ferraris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <4176E087.7090909@libero.it> <200410211030.29408.pauldv@gentoo.org> <20041021095216.GA12088@gentoo.org> <921ad39e04102104464437f153@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <921ad39e04102104464437f153@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at libero.it serv3 Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Conary X-Archives-Salt: 5cf251dc-1705-4633-8ba9-a9c488680e68 X-Archives-Hash: 04f9db5388e6124a3a333b085be8add1 Roman Gaufman wrote: > Personally, I find binary packages on gentoo perfect for my use. I > have several computers on the network, all running gentoo with no gcc > or any header files. I then have an offline machine that gets > everything compiled and put on a shared /usr/portage for all the > machines to just emerge -k simultaneously. > > That way when I emerge something, I can review the config files, add > some custom options and some fancy polish and quickpkg will bundle > everything together all pre-configured. You're a very patient person, or your offline machine is at least a 4 3Ghz Xeon with 4 GB RAM, or you never compiled something like X and/or OpenOffice and some other nice little things ;-) . It is that what you're describing is a lucky, but I fear uncommon, situation: you can afford a plus machine and you don't have different machines and machines types to compile for. I think that a common situation, with different machines and machine types and production machines, require a big overhead either in CPU load, either to schedule, monitor and manage the compilations for not suffering for such CPU load increase. I made what you're describing, but also in my case, with the same machines and machine types and the CPU load increase was not a concern. I think that in most cases, with a smart monitoring, scheduling and managing and with ccache and distcc you can get the target also in more common situations without performance degradation in the business services offered by the machines, but there are concerns either for security (gcc installed everywhere to have distcc working) and the work for managing monitoring, scheduling and control the CPU load and network traffic increase. Sorry for the beastly English, but I can write a worst French and also a very bad Italian ;-) Andrea -- gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org mailing list