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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Questions about CVS locations and GID...
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:51:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051006125144.03a2527d@snowdrop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051006023948.GQ13519@nightcrawler>

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On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:39:49 -0500 Brian Harring <ferringb@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| So bluntly, shut up and let those who you think are being retarded, 
| be retarded.  Discussions on this list regarding those attempts 
| shouldn't be heckled unless you're contributing to those efforts (and 
| I truly mean *contributing*, not trying to punch holes in embryonic 
| efforts that are trying to get off the ground addressing the major 
| issues up front).

Pfff. By contributing to the design by showing what *won't* work, I'm
saving a heck of a lot of wasted man hours that will otherwise be spent
writing a non-working solution.

A contribution of code is worthless if the code is completely wrong, no
matter how much effort was spent producing it.

But then, we all know how this goes. When the code's 'done', it gets
merged, and then you start claiming "If you had any issues with it you
should have brought them up at the design stage. It's too late now!".
So really, it's a no win situation. Point out gaping design flaws at the
start and you're accused of shooting holes in things that don't exist
yet. Point out gaping design flaws when it's first merged and you're
accused of shooting holes in things upon which people have spent lots
of time. Point out gaping design flaws after it goes live and you're
told it's too late.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


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  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-06 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-05 18:35 [gentoo-portage-dev] Questions about CVS locations and GID m h
2005-10-05 19:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-05 20:06 ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-10-05 20:18   ` m h
2005-10-05 20:25     ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-10-05 20:24   ` Brian Harring
2005-10-05 20:48     ` m h
2005-10-05 21:10       ` Brian Harring
2005-10-05 21:52         ` m h
2005-10-05 22:02           ` Brian Harring
2005-10-05 23:01             ` m h
2005-10-05 23:10               ` Brian Harring
2005-10-05 20:57     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-05 21:13       ` Brian Harring
2005-10-05 22:31         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-05 23:00           ` Brian Harring
2005-10-05 23:14             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-05 23:22               ` Brian Harring
2005-10-05 23:38                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-05 23:40                   ` Brian Harring
2005-10-06  0:13                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-06  1:01                       ` Brian Harring
2005-10-06  1:07                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-06  1:17                           ` Brian Harring
2005-10-06  1:23                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-06  1:32                               ` Brian Harring
2005-10-06  1:40                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-06  1:48                                   ` Brian Harring
2005-10-06  2:01                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-06  2:39                                       ` Brian Harring
2005-10-06 11:51                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2005-10-06 12:08                                           ` Jason Stubbs
2005-10-06 13:07                                           ` Alec Warner
2005-10-06 18:29                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-06 18:42                                               ` Brian Harring
2005-10-06 19:11                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-06  1:56                       ` Kito
2005-10-06  2:02                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-06  2:11                           ` Kito
2005-10-05 23:27             ` Alec Warner
2005-10-05 23:38               ` m h
2005-10-05 23:46                 ` Alec Warner
2005-10-05 21:16       ` Kito
2005-10-05 21:34         ` Brian Harring
2005-10-05 22:29         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-05 22:53           ` Brian Harring
2005-10-05 23:03             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-10-05 23:21               ` Brian Harring
2005-10-06  4:14         ` Finn Thain
2005-10-06  4:22           ` Brian Harring

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