From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ELa2D-0003oO-Gz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:35:45 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j915RUp7016941; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 05:27:30 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j915RU5L005761 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 05:27:30 GMT Received: from zh034158.ppp.dion.ne.jp ([222.3.34.158] helo=opteron246.suzuki-stubbs.home) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1ELa1e-0000Hx-5k for gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 05:35:10 +0000 Received: by opteron246.suzuki-stubbs.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B49DA248DAE; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:17:28 +0900 (JST) From: Jason Stubbs To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Improved user information and communication Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:17:28 +0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.91 References: <433E1846.1090106@stiefelweb.de> In-Reply-To: <433E1846.1090106@stiefelweb.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510011417.28373.jstubbs@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: a52b6fc1-04ec-4558-b3b7-9e2f925a1d69 X-Archives-Hash: bffce2f338b425a229ebc7eec5fb219a On Saturday 01 October 2005 14:01, Daniel Stiefelmaier wrote: > I'd like to introduce two ideas i had to improve portage. I haven't had an idea introduced to me that was new for at least a year.. Patches are more interesting. > sometimes i'd like to know something more about a package before i > emerge it. > > 1. release notes. (for the ebuild, not the application) > as a release notes file exists, a parameter could be used to show the > most recent entry. > maybe this fits "eix" better than "emerge" emerge --changelog ? > 2. advanced package info > most important here is an explanation of the available use flags. i know > there is a list of most flags (http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml) > but it is incomplete and doesnt explain some flags well. some have > different behaviour in different packages. > some flags are self-explanatory, but some are not. for example, the > "xprint" comment should say, that this is not necessary to print, and > under what circumstances it is needed. This should go to gentoo-dev@g.o as ebuild developers are the ones that decide what USE flags are available and how they're documented. > also, the advanced could provide > - links to howto's (like configuring apache) This is out of the domain of a package in any package management system IMO. > - list packages that are of use for this (plugins or utilized apps like > cervisia that integrates in quanta plus) Do you mean finding packages that depend on that package in question? > - tell how to contact the ebuild maintainer metadata.xml. This information is printed out when using -vv in portage-2.1_alpha. > that led my to another idea: a wiki for all ebuilds in portage. > all the information could then be in the wiki, and eix/emerge just print > the wiki-link. > i'd suggest mediawiki, as it has a discussion page attached. > maybe the wiki itself can only be changed by developers, and feedback is > given on the discussion page. Personally, I hate most wikis. 9 times out of 10, they are full of half-correct information. This makes them all the more dangerous as the "average Joe" can't tell what's correct and what isn't. > just some ideas, maybe needing some development, i hope you find them > useful. :) Ideas are "a dime, a dozen". -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org mailing list