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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] PATCH: initial EAPI awareness
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 01:04:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050902060453.GD8478@nightcrawler> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4317E2D0.2080401@gmail.com>

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On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 10:27:44PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
> Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> >On Wednesday 31 August 2005 14:57, Brian Harring wrote:
> >
> >>Re: tagging EAPI at the top of a file, infra would probably shoot me for 
> >>doing such- till a live, fully compatible and *roughly* equivalent parser 
> >>is available, portage would have to do a bit of grepping, jacking up the 
> >>regen times.
> >
> >
> >If in cache EAPI can be gotten from the cache. If not, I don't think it 
> >matters where in the file EAPI occurs from the standpoint of getting it's 
> >value. The only thing would be that in the future a fast EAPI parser could 
> >be made that would just look at EAPI and get its version. I could easilly 
> >write you such a parser.
> 
> It is impossible write a parser for an unconstrained and unknown format 
> that may exist in the future.  If we put a constraint on the format, in 
> order to parse the EAPI, then we contradict our original goal (to 
> unconstrain the format).
> 
> A better approach IMO would be to store the EAPI in a separate file such as 
> metadata.xml.  This would allow *absolute* flexibility in the "ebuild" 
> format.  Portage would be able to select an appropriate parser with no need 
> to examine the "ebuild" itself.
Disallows eclasses from ever setting eapi.

Like I've said, EAPI is ebuild specific.  Ebuild is a format; eapi 
defines revisions of it, in my mind a minor revision of the ebuild 1 
format.  Any form of loss of backwards compatability *should* be a 
different format, .ebuild2 for all I care.

Trying to use EAPI to allow for N different formats into one format is 
wrong from where I sit; you would need a container format for it, 
which ebuild wasn't designed for (nor is it easily extensible to be 
made so I posit).

EAPI's original specification was for handling addition of new funcs, 
different hooks in the ebuild; I prefer it remain as this.  The core 
rewrite is format agnostic, if a new format is defined (whether a 
massively managled version of ebuild or flat out new), it's a seperate 
format and should be handled via the core, not via ebuild specific 
package handling.

There's no reason a repository can't hold multiple formats internally; 
the capability is there, use that rather then trying to jam too much 
into EAPI, imo at least.
~harring

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-02  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-27 10:53 [gentoo-portage-dev] PATCH: initial EAPI awareness Brian Harring
2005-08-28  5:46 ` Jason Stubbs
2005-08-28  9:29   ` Brian Harring
2005-08-28 15:32     ` warnera6
2005-08-28  9:31 ` Zac Medico
2005-08-28  9:45   ` Brian Harring
2005-08-29  8:32 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-08-29 20:52 ` Zac Medico
2005-08-29 22:45   ` Brian Harring
2005-08-30  1:07     ` Brian Harring
2005-08-31 15:10       ` Zac Medico
2005-08-31 20:45         ` Brian Harring
2005-09-01  8:11       ` Zac Medico
2005-08-30  9:43   ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-08-30 10:38     ` Marius Mauch
2005-08-30 10:42       ` Brian Harring
2005-08-30 13:15         ` Marius Mauch
2005-08-30 13:28           ` Brian Harring
2005-08-30 14:47             ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-08-30 23:46               ` Brian Harring
2005-08-31  9:55                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-08-31 12:58                   ` Brian Harring
2005-08-31 14:59                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-08-31 10:52                 ` Marius Mauch
2005-08-31 12:57                   ` Brian Harring
2005-08-31 14:43                     ` Zac Medico
2005-08-31 15:41                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-09-02  5:27                       ` Zac Medico
2005-09-02  6:04                         ` Brian Harring [this message]
2005-09-02  6:36                           ` Zac Medico
2005-09-02  8:53                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-09-02 12:27                             ` Brian Harring
2005-09-02  8:42                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-08-30 15:19             ` Marius Mauch
2005-08-31 12:30       ` Zac Medico
2005-09-02  6:31 ` Marius Mauch
2005-08-29  8:34   ` Brian Harring
2005-08-30 17:46     ` Marius Mauch
2005-08-30 23:38       ` Jason Stubbs
2005-08-31  0:12       ` Brian Harring

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