From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E3c6h-0001h6-Mv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:10:08 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7CG8UlY022406; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:08:30 GMT Received: from www.opersys.com (opersys.com [64.40.108.71]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7CG8TTr024618 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 16:08:29 GMT Received: from [192.168.172.55] (modemcable172.15-70-69.static.videotron.ca [69.70.15.172]) by www.opersys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18859; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:45:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Next major version From: Kristian Benoit To: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Christopher Korn In-Reply-To: <42FB96CE.6090906@egr.msu.edu> References: <1123700491.29247.56.camel@localhost> <42FA540E.2080900@egr.msu.edu> <20050811195149.4957adf5.chris@chkorn.de> <42FB96CE.6090906@egr.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:04:34 -0400 Message-Id: <1123862674.23755.44.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-portage-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 12d09c06-58e2-494e-be43-3db64e120866 X-Archives-Hash: 3e076b2d4d3b9062512c4a23a0ee6fa7 On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 14:19 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > Christopher Korn wrote: > > >>>Hi Jason and other folks, > >>>I saw your last comment on > >>>http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73350 about most the these > >>>feature to be present in the next major version. That is really > >>>great to read. > >>> > >>>On that subject, I'd like to have an idea about when we should > >>>expect that next version. > >>> > >>>That said, I think it would be helpful to have a portage developper > >>>site. Perhaps there is and I dont know... > >>> > >>> > >> That would require someone writing one, so if you are > >>volunteering ;) > >> > >> > > > > > >Writing is not the problem. But without (proper) information it is hard > >to write a documentation or something like this. > > > > > >Chris > > > > > I had a wiki that attempted to cover portage-2.0 api documentation as > well as anything written for 2.1 but lost much of the work in a > transition from windows to linux ( I screwed up the SQl backups :) ). > I thought about putting something up on the devwiki but I haven't > proposed anything because no one really likes a wiki for API docs. > > As for API docs, there are none at present; and there are no plans for > any stable docs, IIRC. > > As for a developer website, what kinds of information are you looking for? Like you talked about, doc would be nice, Jason has some doc, api doc... here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~jstubbs/ but it does not look and is not official. I remember, when I started using Gentoo, reading that portage is a stand alone tool, it is not bind into Gentoo in anyway, someone could use it on redhat, debian, lfs... Back then I was using lfs so I thought portage could be the way to go on lfs, but I realized that Gentoo fit my needs and I did'nt have to compile everything by hand anymore and still have everything compiled by my machines :) OH JOY !!! But 5 years or so later, the only official place to get portage releases is still in the gentoo mirrors. There is no RSS feed or anything like that. I still believe that portage has the potential to be so powerful that redhat, debian, ... could be building their packages using portage, managing their own tree, having night build. The problem is see, is that the initial portage vision (or perhaps my initial vision, a vision I still have) has not been carried along with it's developpement. Having an official web site, doc, ... will help getting visibility and effort from the rest of the world thus we'll have better tools and eventually extend portage beyond Gentoo. Kristian -- gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org mailing list