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From: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-pms] Re: EAPI 5
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 00:40:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201205010040.32421.dilfridge@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120430231512.74e964a2@googlemail.com>

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Am Dienstag 01 Mai 2012, 00:15:12 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh:
> On Tue, 1 May 2012 00:14:15 +0200
> 
> "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > * package.use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.force support, as
> > discussed on gentoo-dev (there and on IRC feedback was pretty much
> > positive)
> > 
> > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_6c492ae43ad7c70cef6aa8ac34911ad
> > f.xml
> 
> I'm against this one in a "quick" EAPI, unless you can get a reference
> implementation and extensive testing on possible use scenarios done in
> time. I strongly suspect this will end up having the problems that
> REQUIRED_USE had when it was shoved in at the last minute without
> anyone having properly tried it out...

I cannot say much myself about the complexity of the reference implementation, 
however the concept itself is imho pretty straightforward and (in particular) 
not intrusive.

The main problem that I see with REQUIRED_USE is that it generates 
restrictions that cannot be resolved automatically. Not sure how anything like 
that can happen here, where we do not offer any choices but deliberately only 
limit them.

-- 

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-30 22:40 UTC|newest]

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2012-04-27 20:12                                             ` [gentoo-pms] EAPI 5 (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making user patches globally available) Ciaran McCreesh
2012-04-27 22:01                                               ` [gentoo-pms] EAPI 5 Ulrich Mueller
2012-04-28  9:36                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-04-28 10:11                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-04-28 10:14                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-04-28 10:26                                                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-04-29  3:13                                                         ` Brian Harring
2012-04-29  6:47                                                           ` Michał Górny
2012-04-29  7:12                                                             ` Brian Harring
2012-04-29 16:20                                                 ` Ralph Sennhauser
2012-04-29 16:50                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-04-29 17:38                                                     ` Ralph Sennhauser
2012-04-29 17:48                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-04-29 17:41                                                     ` Ralph Sennhauser
2012-04-29 17:39                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-04-27 23:45                                               ` [gentoo-pms] EAPI 5 (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making user patches globally available) Zac Medico
2012-04-28  8:52                                               ` [gentoo-pms] " Michał Górny
2012-04-28  9:34                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-04-28 10:24                                                   ` [gentoo-pms] Re: EAPI 5 Ulrich Mueller
2012-04-28 14:13                                                     ` Michał Górny
2012-04-28 15:19                                                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]                                               ` <1335602418.25644.2.camel@belkin4>
2012-04-28 10:03                                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-04-28 17:11                                               ` [gentoo-pms] EAPI 5 (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Making user patches globally available) Tiziano Müller
2012-04-28 17:14                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-04-29  3:24                                                   ` Brian Harring
2012-04-29 14:20                                                     ` Tiziano Müller
2012-04-30  9:03                                                   ` Tiziano Müller
2012-04-30 22:14                                               ` [gentoo-pms] Re: EAPI 5 Andreas K. Huettel
2012-04-30 22:15                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-04-30 22:40                                                   ` Andreas K. Huettel [this message]
2012-04-30 22:44                                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-04-30 23:02                                                       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-05-01  8:38                                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-05-01  9:01                                                           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-05-01  9:16                                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-05-01 12:10                                                               ` Andreas K. Huettel
2012-05-13 20:57                                                 ` Zac Medico
2012-05-02 17:40                                               ` [gentoo-pms] " Ulrich Mueller
2012-05-06  3:18                                               ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2012-05-06  9:10                                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-05-06  9:18                                                 ` Michał Górny
2012-05-06 14:20                                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh

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