From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SOYGw-0006bk-4J for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:50:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D4A5E0603; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B823BE0603 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so1714953wer.40 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:50:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=ejr6jBjq1VqJU44fdIA37/nuyQDYVBxrzanjKTwVSrE=; b=C/axb3O9qkuFsdnOlRnUbEogSZsnOTAExe0bnCgiexKBfg08BC9Ui92QrgjjYeq75F 2HFsW2qsI2afSAFo/RXV6wB+KykES/6DioLgwDxwRAWz+4Kkc6hH6G2nTBt6iPsJXyPP B9fU00fd6JnXsYlyknA6KxkkASq+cZGCL1Rhf5JdkXtOiX5fyAkhSApiFahqAG/kvl8e /0u0Suk+sz3VbJpikjAt+a8u6d5agpAo+EUKdVnuDIXjQ/MBwYHL3nnYnIlBtGRwIXkg SVemm37SgmJJSyJlYN3O3+lN1SRGekqFK9Er8YHb0TT423kq+F8h7q49n2vE0TWO9YSR hCqQ== Received: by 10.216.137.100 with SMTP id x78mr11505728wei.72.1335721848978; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc13-broo7-2-0-cust130.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.9.16.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3sm22420781wib.4.2012.04.29.10.50.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:48:23 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-pms] EAPI 5 Message-ID: <20120429184823.73c244d9@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20120429193803.34f0dc41@sera-17.lan> References: <20120415021641.1858ffde@gentoo.org> <20120418184138.50153e57@googlemail.com> <4F8F05E9.5070103@gentoo.org> <4F8F0929.2010109@googlemail.com> <4F8F18EC.3000707@gentoo.org> <4F8F3513.2060202@googlemail.com> <20120425224433.2fa0f2de@gentoo.org> <4F98EA90.4000403@gentoo.org> <4F9967DE.8000601@gentoo.org> <4F99F941.90705@gentoo.org> <20120427162051.13554e1a@pomiocik.lan> <4F9AD51F.6060303@gentoo.org> <20378.57067.381372.698034@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120427202614.0edd9c24@googlemail.com> <20378.63178.619568.972455@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120427215824.3382e682@pomiocik.lan> <20120427211227.613709a2@googlemail.com> <20379.5970.885619.946069@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120429182001.33f09f79@sera-17.lan> <20120429175043.4343b433@googlemail.com> <20120429193803.34f0dc41@sera-17.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Package Manager Specification discussions X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/SMkDJ29otrb.fm0bM=EL8gE"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: f85c7300-b114-4a01-99f5-93c32e93e98e X-Archives-Hash: 236151a6b2270f01e96b88a0baf95071 --Sig_/SMkDJ29otrb.fm0bM=EL8gE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:38:03 +0200 Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > Is there anything beside the IMPLICIT_IUSE left from the original EAPI > 3 proposal which didn't made it into either EAPI 3 or 4 but would be > required? Yeah. IMPLICIT_IUSE needs the whole redefinition of IUSE_EFFECTIVE etc to make sense. Historically IUSE was purely for visual effect. That went out of the window when we got USE dependencies, but for various reasons the opportunity to make IUSE correct enough for USE dependencies to work was missed. Right now use dependency defaults are moderately broken, since their wording depended upon a feature that got dropped. We can't start injecting things into IUSE until we have a consistent definition of IUSE_EFFECTIVE. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/SMkDJ29otrb.fm0bM=EL8gE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk+dfuoACgkQ96zL6DUtXhH9ygCgiLcBb/fC7WxDbmFr6ypl1XXe wxQAn3rxVq+h/Qf7cIKUszFWKIhkxH0A =WSpl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/SMkDJ29otrb.fm0bM=EL8gE--