From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SOKa1-00024O-Ms for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 03:13:46 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E52AE0710; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 03:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f51.google.com (mail-pz0-f51.google.com [209.85.210.51]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99755E0710 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 03:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadz8 with SMTP id z8so2628882dad.10 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:13:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=1fM6q2SLzXB0J97BxWYvNuEdpGX6pr+BJjmiKadw6Qk=; b=HPyXTKpDt7DP4yGNwFyjiBjzAMAbsyQWL8CS3XhQFXboS0RRQHjo+UIGl/0WTM6FOL vZSBjaXeOgHGRYDkssq6OGTnJBrzZTSGzohLSDEwg2PKKt7CtM9iSUeOQr6+vrMgXVkp UGzBeyoWXafTIY1wxPBUJ5nRRvItvteaD9jOfZnQ15+4Gf82QBl+mTNxnGjj+z+P14/A MimVyGmCoI64nqS/yKWTVbVlGO602QtjSSiyAs7/go8tl6SfkMPby5gRUtf/o241z6fD sRxVRoiEKYge4kF5zjZyjYrfpJbl3hrjFNqkXPqUBz7riTCCEPrFrT5rm6pR2SjQ3waT uZUw== Received: by 10.68.129.131 with SMTP id nw3mr25459845pbb.150.1335669213950; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.gmail.com:587 (74-95-192-101-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [74.95.192.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xd9sm7560261pbc.38.2012.04.28.20.13.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by smtp.gmail.com:587 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:13:41 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:13:41 -0700 From: Brian Harring To: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-pms] EAPI 5 Message-ID: <20120429031341.GA3134@localhost> References: <20378.57067.381372.698034@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120427202614.0edd9c24@googlemail.com> <20378.63178.619568.972455@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120427215824.3382e682@pomiocik.lan> <20120427211227.613709a2@googlemail.com> <20379.5970.885619.946069@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120428103640.799dcfaf@googlemail.com> <20379.49754.946726.653449@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120428111431.51350910@googlemail.com> <20379.50657.771443.412191@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Package Manager Specification discussions X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20379.50657.771443.412191@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 23fc3f3d-1b92-49c9-aafc-3ac99100874e X-Archives-Hash: 7b629a74be63c053fcb1b0569de6ca48 On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 12:26:41PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 12:11:38 +0200 > > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> >>>>> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> >> > * Get a versionator replacement into the PM > >> >> > >> >> Given the long time it's been in limbo I doubt that this will be a > >> >> quick feature. (But I'll be glad if you convince me of the > >> >> opposite.) > >> > >> > I thought we just didn't have that because we couldn't add new > >> > global scope functions. > >> > >> But can we already for EAPI 5? Wouldn't the following: > >> > >> EAPI=5 > >> MY_PV=$(new_pm_version_mangler_function ${PV}) > >> > >> still fail for old package managers that don't implement EAPI parsing? > > > Didn't the Council effectively vote to ignore that problem? > > Yes, but after some reasonable transition period. For EAPI5, all global scope functionality/bash version/take your pick has to be taken off the table, and held back till EAPI6- w/ the timeline for EAPI6 being "a reasonable transition period" after EAPI5 has been stabled in portage. ~brian