From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NJ6FO-00010p-UB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:13:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91FF0E099E for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:13:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f217.google.com (mail-fx0-f217.google.com [209.85.220.217]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06554E0764 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so969438fxm.10 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:58:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=snWWjaWD2BLs4M/jbHLngTzWyFGTAZaIEwwnx5WQUe8=; b=G6V332K8+R4LQy9ySpP1rcHBAeU9a7pT9gxICSSqfOkoq6+9y5ybu5sVE9mcDpTjmI GKwPcYHUZE/1SMVv7Km3KEiDmh2rczaeToD4amNjh5cwAnR/0ZV+9YE7YH9RB/T7xCB1 QwtE/6tV2m5GCwGchqFAooTct6HvdBaAWUzHE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=BDFTbf3aKX4Ocq+ZqlKPVLs/SRyj03TmuI+mR7keUOXxvxO0769LLSJVTrAiYjfRIG 08tvEoUm4IvJM3jNTbWqU5sQ1pIOlsvd72fx2ruPsdWkWtweBD/r1cccG+zGc8wAE7bt WoIYZJEIln9iD6vUUZ/ZF7FDxqmaKDoxF+wdQ= Received: by 10.102.149.9 with SMTP id w9mr549687mud.77.1260539909215; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowmobile (cpc1-sgyl18-0-0-cust846.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm4923628mup.25.2009.12.11.05.58.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 11 Dec 2009 05:58:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:57:50 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: Brian Harring Cc: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-pms] kdebuild-1 conditionales Message-ID: <20091211135750.1c24a3fd@snowmobile> In-Reply-To: <20091211081754.GA6529@hrair> References: <20091210214848.7d070ab2@gentoo.org> <20091210222730.5df0df14@snowmobile> <20091211081754.GA6529@hrair> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.3 (GTK+ 2.18.3; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Package Manager Specification discussions X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/UNq/Mk__RWAQdLH06LnQtKW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 983014ea-8c6f-4efa-8683-334f4e5b8617 X-Archives-Hash: 067d49f241a044b2f554927439fbb57e --Sig_/UNq/Mk__RWAQdLH06LnQtKW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:17:54 -0800 Brian Harring wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:27:30PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > * Don't mess with kdebuild until you're sure that no-one has any > > kdebuild packages installed. >=20 > I'm not looking to start a fight, and frankly after a year or so I've=20 > learned to just subconsciously/automatically ignore kdebuild, but why=20 > exactly must this be in pms? Because we have not yet established that no users have kdebuild things installed. Thus, package managers that support it have to go on supporting it. Once kdebuild can be safely removed from package managers that have supported it, it can then be removed from PMS. > It's experimental w/ low user acceptance, and was fundamentally=20 > outside the gentoo mainstream. If long term maintenance of it is=20 > desired for anyone who hasn't yet punted those ebuilds from their=20 > vdb, maintain it in a branch rather then the effective head (don't=20 > make the mainline suffer maintenance for something that was outside=20 > mainline). Branches are for use when you can't use better mechanisms. We have better mechanisms. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/UNq/Mk__RWAQdLH06LnQtKW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAksiT94ACgkQ96zL6DUtXhHv+gCgo7bs7MZISKPyWaQWNQ0YvCLU SbMAn1T5cB3d4LOXjg+KzKz5vgCAsTvn =DmjQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/UNq/Mk__RWAQdLH06LnQtKW--