From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mp8pI-0004iG-J1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:54:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D886E096B; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18DFE096B for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so1912976ewy.14 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:54:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=OHNibBr1KD+i91YSX1m908DJXVDZbYU1ai7PC/CKWgE=; b=yGJLCbUSbH4oF/UCl5zeJQCfuBObfcbLHwj9HLhiR/sNLwtiz0Zmu9a1ex6duvENz1 4URVZwTregLMO2rz/MCzZk0bab6Z6mE8S2c+Cu+T2My/kZbuWM0wWyPQiER7hka4CKjC mdRO91x/VX5lg/u8GidgiwOdYWX9lTQXBn9+I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=wS/U07cYJA0y3LqonBJsgXisO4bLMaye/ZnpwSFFfwT11sru7QDQt/WORKlj08PeIy aoJYff6Hma3LufLFdxSsVBukPFhtSaYSj6vHjogH8pIGfUTxY+qdyEoRcXQjI2WyXXap nBMOiB14U/3JJTo3Z4ozUhTtdJ+aq1KY1M9e8= Received: by 10.211.161.23 with SMTP id n23mr3847850ebo.52.1253400883289; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowmobile (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm8570689eyd.0.2009.09.19.15.54.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:54:38 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: Ulrich Mueller Cc: Patrick Lauer , gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-pms] tree-layout.tex small cleanup Message-ID: <20090919235438.03b1a374@snowmobile> In-Reply-To: <19125.24215.672226.640564@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <200909192215.41235.patrick@gentoo.org> <20090919212541.269df025@snowcone> <200909192234.39415.patrick@gentoo.org> <20090919214515.6b314a3f@snowmobile> <19125.21814.705689.833261@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20090919231135.0539253b@snowmobile> <19125.24215.672226.640564@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Package Manager Specification discussions X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/PkBhGIvcy5QXUY2K.+zke_t"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 970edf97-6161-42ae-8fd6-f55c46fe554b X-Archives-Hash: b1dd43ec58125debf2f118117f3182af --Sig_/PkBhGIvcy5QXUY2K.+zke_t Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:43:35 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >=20 > > But it was an official Gentoo project, [...] >=20 > The 2008-04-10 council summary says something different: >=20 > # The council voted that kdebuild-1 and other unapproved EAPIs could > # not be in an approved PMS document. The spec isn't a place for > # proposals or things that will never be submitted for approval by the > # council. It's a specification, a reference of what is allowed in the > # main tree. Please point to where the Council said that the Gentoo KDE project wasn't an official Gentoo project. > So, really no need to discuss it further. Sure there is. Let's look at what happens if you remove it: * It makes it harder for package manager authors to deal with things that were delivered by an official Gentoo project. * It makes doing future EAPIs more work, since we'll almost certainly end up rewriting things that we'd be taking out. As much as you might like to rewrite history to pretend it never existed, the fact is, kdebuild-1 did exist and we're better off acknowledging that. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/PkBhGIvcy5QXUY2K.+zke_t Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkq1YTAACgkQ96zL6DUtXhGxywCgiwY1m0zlOvVKkXH4NVBTHJxm OiIAoJ9Z0wL0RF25VlW9x2X4Dd5rJntf =PYuU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/PkBhGIvcy5QXUY2K.+zke_t--