From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MoHD1-0000XM-JE for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:39:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D972E07EB; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:39:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB905E07EB for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:39:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so28402ewy.14 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:39:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=vmsU8wph8P/s2MufnmC1PIclZCWlxpE8UQCjLWf0loU=; b=nxYRDnNjK3DZVQv5yH/Knh6xmrHPFkzu8Q0QwFHhWj5AdVw5H09QfyfTIv7sR5SIvr ILhE7A3G/4R6SQUMPcPrp9yrhkc85AUuQKPyrktwW5gP+P7Jzx/hH4Waob86LIT9E1xz gwNQFS4HCfQDQcssK0RIdG8277/id+NdNrzbE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=TH8gqjgt2FQdAspZu31dDui6BludKbGrd978+wV+suUkXxkNSMFxPECvq9slHghh6B UK3BY2EUvUhQ7XN7ENohNr92QVXDii8h0O4RtTMRmcRQ9AVwgNV3tC3yqyuXB0KrhhUl H69WErW4ha0mtml1uDV7MswMEKyU68bkL1k4Q= Received: by 10.211.145.12 with SMTP id x12mr647147ebn.44.1253194776966; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm5668008eyg.2.2009.09.17.06.39.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:39:25 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: Ulrich Mueller Cc: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-pms] Moving PMS hosting Message-ID: <20090917143925.14e48924@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <19121.53223.681144.59107@a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <20090916230536.331ede00@snowmobile> <19121.53223.681144.59107@a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.16.5; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Package Manager Specification discussions X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-pms@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_//PSXee+xQyfrgW/FwWzp9Mo"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 32a9030a-bf9b-4e6c-96b4-2b89795e19f4 X-Archives-Hash: f39fd38cef53ed413b7c4555d740312e --Sig_//PSXee+xQyfrgW/FwWzp9Mo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:57:59 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > As previously discussed, >=20 > Where did such a discussion take place? I'm not aware of any. (Or do > you mean the one back in April, buried in the tread "Patches for your > reviewing pleasure"? Its outcome was different.) It happened the last time access privs started mysteriously disappearing without any kind of communication. > > I've created a Github repo which you can find at: >=20 > > http://github.com/ciaranm/pms >=20 > You shouldn't take such hasty and single-handed decisions. That you > got your bugzilla access suspended has nothing to do with the PMS > project. The problem isn't the access suspension, it's that I find out about it by trying to log on to bugzilla and get told to look at two bugs that I can't access, and then am leaked information about it by three different Gentoo people all of whom say "I'm passing this on from a secret IRC channel, so don't tell anyone it came from me". It's also because this isn't the first time that this has happened. > The question is really what we want PMS to be. If it should be the > authoritative document describing package manager behaviour and repo > layout, then there's no alternative to hosting on Gentoo infra. If you > want it to decline to a "man page" (read the log of the last council > meeting), then go ahead and move it to Github. I want it to be somewhere where we can all work on it. That's the important part. As the people involved have come clean and admitted their mistake, and presumably have updated their procedures so it won't happen again, I'll happily let it slide this time if people prefer. Still, this kind of thing really doesn't inspire confidence. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_//PSXee+xQyfrgW/FwWzp9Mo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqyPBAACgkQ96zL6DUtXhEDvwCgyUjBtJfc4sOs1BBsniNTF7nH NmYAn1FO64gqoi1yP4Bi4HoVCx2SVD1F =DAuL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_//PSXee+xQyfrgW/FwWzp9Mo--