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* [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals
@ 2012-10-05 13:07 lists
  2012-10-31 12:56 ` lists
  2012-11-10 11:27 ` aranea
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: lists @ 2012-10-05 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-perl

Hi there,

couls somebody please have a look at this bug:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429378

There are some other virtuals which have a similar problem, I just want
one precedent before filing bugs for all of them...

Regards,
aranea


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* Re: [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals
  2012-10-05 13:07 [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals lists
@ 2012-10-31 12:56 ` lists
  2012-10-31 13:00   ` Roberto Felipe Araneda Chavarria
  2012-11-10 11:27 ` aranea
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: lists @ 2012-10-31 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-perl

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:07:45 +0200
<lists@aixah.de> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> could somebody please have a look at this bug:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429378
> 
> There are some other virtuals which have a similar problem, I just want
> one precedent before filing bugs for all of them...
> 
> Regards,
> aranea
> 
> 

Ping. Anyone's reading this ML?

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* Re: [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals
  2012-10-31 12:56 ` lists
@ 2012-10-31 13:00   ` Roberto Felipe Araneda Chavarria
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Roberto Felipe Araneda Chavarria @ 2012-10-31 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-perl

ack!

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:56 AM,  <lists@aixah.de> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:07:45 +0200
> <lists@aixah.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> could somebody please have a look at this bug:
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429378
>>
>> There are some other virtuals which have a similar problem, I just want
>> one precedent before filing bugs for all of them...
>>
>> Regards,
>> aranea
>>
>>
>
> Ping. Anyone's reading this ML?



-- 
--

Roberto Araneda Chavarría.


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* Re: [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals
  2012-10-05 13:07 [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals lists
  2012-10-31 12:56 ` lists
@ 2012-11-10 11:27 ` aranea
  2012-11-10 12:17   ` [gentoo-dev] " Kent Fredric
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: aranea @ 2012-11-10 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-perl; +Cc: gentoo-dev

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On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:07:45 +0200
<lists@aixah.de> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> could somebody please have a look at this bug:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429378
> 
> There are some other virtuals which have a similar problem, I just
> want one precedent before filing bugs for all of them...
> 
> Regards,
> aranea
> 
> 

It's been 3 months since I filed this bug, and one month ago I sent a
reminder to the gentoo-perl ML. There haven't been any reactions. I
also couldn't reach anyone on IRC. Is this herd dead or what?

Regards,
aranea / Luis Ressel

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals
  2012-11-10 11:27 ` aranea
@ 2012-11-10 12:17   ` Kent Fredric
  2012-11-10 13:05     ` Kent Fredric
  2012-11-10 13:30     ` Fwd: " aranea
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kent Fredric @ 2012-11-10 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: gentoo-perl

On 11 November 2012 00:27, aranea <lists@aixah.de> wrote:
>>
>
> It's been 3 months since I filed this bug, and one month ago I sent a
> reminder to the gentoo-perl ML. There haven't been any reactions. I
> also couldn't reach anyone on IRC. Is this herd dead or what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnock%27s_Dilemma

As for IRC, I guess you need to be a little more patient, may of us
are in various different timezones =)

-- 
Kent


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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals
  2012-11-10 12:17   ` [gentoo-dev] " Kent Fredric
@ 2012-11-10 13:05     ` Kent Fredric
  2012-11-10 13:30     ` Fwd: " aranea
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Kent Fredric @ 2012-11-10 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: gentoo-perl

The issue is basically, as you'll see in my comments on the updated
bug, Perl virtuals are not very trivial, and every perl release
results in a nightmare of fixes we have to apply to every Perl virtual
in tree, so we don't , at present, want more virtuals than necessary.

I'd personally love to have a virtual for each thing that is in perl
itself, as a virtual, because that would absolve me from a few
headaches with depending on certain core modules, but I won't request
it because the added complexity is just not really worth it.

And its not made easier by the fact upstream declare dependencies on
Modules, not Distributions , and Module<=>Distribution is resolved
dynamically at install time, and we basically have to make assumptions
downstream that modules wont jump around too much between releases .

If we were to have a virtual for each *module* that was possible to
depend on, there would be ... 668 virtuals, *just* for perl.

I volunteer to be somewhere else if that ever happens. Not maintaining
that, no thanks =)



-- 
Kent


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* Fwd: Re: [gentoo-perl] Incomplete virtuals
  2012-11-10 12:17   ` [gentoo-dev] " Kent Fredric
  2012-11-10 13:05     ` Kent Fredric
@ 2012-11-10 13:30     ` aranea
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: aranea @ 2012-11-10 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-perl

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>Interesting link ;)
>
>I'm completely aware of the timezone problem, that's why I also used
>Bugzilla and the ML.

Hmm, that mail didn't get through...

Luis

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