* [gentoo-perl] why different ebuilds for perl and libperl?
@ 2006-12-13 18:36 Vadim
2006-12-15 7:08 ` Christian Hartmann
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From: Vadim @ 2006-12-13 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw
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I am curious for a long time, why there are libperl and perl, which
seemingly both recompile perl.
IMO neither ruby not python or tcl have such a feature.
Thanks in advance,
Vadim.
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* Re: [gentoo-perl] why different ebuilds for perl and libperl?
2006-12-13 18:36 [gentoo-perl] why different ebuilds for perl and libperl? Vadim
@ 2006-12-15 7:08 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-12-15 13:11 ` Michael Cummings
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From: Christian Hartmann @ 2006-12-15 7:08 UTC (permalink / raw
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> I am curious for a long time, why there are libperl and perl, which
> seemingly both recompile perl.
Michael Cummings ( http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.perl/238 ):
> [...] Right now we have an ebuild for libperl to build a the shared
> library, and the in the regular perl ebuild we build a huge honking
> static perl.
>
> I can see some of the rationale of this historically - on a fried box, a
> static perl will still run, whereas a dynamic one will be dead if
> /usr/lib is toasted.
>
> But seriously, do we really need to keep these separate? Wouldn't a
> (pseudo-ebuild syntax) IUSE="...static" and a if static? (myconf=$myconf
> -Dstatic_option) else ( myconf=$myconf -Ddynamic_option) work? (yeah,
> that was really bad pseudo-ebuild code, you get the drift).
IIRC we decided on merging libperl and perl in the future.
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* Re: [gentoo-perl] why different ebuilds for perl and libperl?
2006-12-15 7:08 ` Christian Hartmann
@ 2006-12-15 13:11 ` Michael Cummings
2006-12-15 14:34 ` Antoine Raillon
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From: Michael Cummings @ 2006-12-15 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw
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On Fri, 2006-12-15 at 08:08 +0100, Christian Hartmann wrote:
> IIRC we decided on merging libperl and perl in the future.
>
but then came a discussion on -dev about how the static flag wasn't
intended for deciding whether you wanted a static or dynamic library,
which put this whole debate back into question as to whether it fit the
"rules."
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* Re: [gentoo-perl] why different ebuilds for perl and libperl?
2006-12-15 13:11 ` Michael Cummings
@ 2006-12-15 14:34 ` Antoine Raillon
2006-12-16 13:39 ` Michael Cummings
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From: Antoine Raillon @ 2006-12-15 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw
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Michael Cummings a écrit :
>
> but then came a discussion on -dev about how the static flag wasn't
> intended for deciding whether you wanted a static or dynamic library,
> which put this whole debate back into question as to whether it fit the
> "rules."
it would save between 30 and 40Mb of space (on amd64 at least ;p) to
have it only once.
BTW, i'm not sure that on a fried box having perl still running is the
most important thing (and maybe we could place a rescue perl package
somewhere, just like there is a rescue portage ;p)
Couldn"t this case be solved by a local perl-[static|dynamic] USE, with
dynamic behaviour as default, while the rest of the world debates over
the use of static USE and other "rules" ? ;p
cab
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