From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EX24n-0003t0-7l for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:45:45 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA1Jj4mn024061; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:45:04 GMT Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA1Jj3Nv007545 for <gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 19:45:04 GMT Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i12so101943wra for <gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:45:03 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eSPCBMnKKXzNbj5liR6QRQdBw5Wz/J/zMgCjmZCWqD6d/PsWjuyPr2HnTPOm7/QDnI6B7qrBd4lI7oPg13tQIyrpWisP7HL3PHeAjQZgnubATkgkVTIkwovEpCll9w0Qq1kzrlJyBZU8375aXhIRT19UqqU/dCTtckupyTCilmg= Received: by 10.54.34.7 with SMTP id h7mr1515010wrh; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.108.4 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:45:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <e36b84ee0511011145h4f53c50cxe5dbf2fcf348b14a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:45:02 -0800 From: m h <sesquile@gmail.com> To: gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-osx] The road ahead? In-Reply-To: <4367C3B4.1090502@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-osx+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-osx+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-osx+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-osx.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-osx@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <61654.84.179.46.234.1130797067.squirrel@mail.sz-online.de> <96c9d6a80511010807k76b88056i4021a6bb746df607@mail.gmail.com> <D7F2324D-2DA1-416C-AE36-82F4A3EAA280@gentoo.org> <4367A340.5010301@gentoo.org> <96c9d6a80511011009w680dbe31k31e06ec71c8e5e53@mail.gmail.com> <e36b84ee0511011103w644356f0i5353607b7209c6cd@mail.gmail.com> <4367BE63.6080400@gentoo.org> <e36b84ee0511011132h163472e8v9ec5e67b511cb81@mail.gmail.com> <4367C3B4.1090502@gentoo.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by robin.gentoo.org id jA1Jj3Nv007545 X-Archives-Salt: 2c7533f7-6ec5-4b0d-88d5-47ba02e682ae X-Archives-Hash: 7a81be7d1afbee4b98f625b617dd492b There are some efforts underway (pypy) to improve the performance of python (which may or may not pan out). Sorry, I didn't intend to say that you should only program in python (even though I prefer to when able). I'm quite aware that many people find python annoying. Just thought that it might make sense in this case since portage is written in python, it should be pretty easy to get a frontend cleanly integrated using it. I'm not an objc nor cocoa person so I can't really comment on that front (read portions of the oreilly cocoa book and wasn't motivated to continue ;( ). Also as the only Mac I have access to is one at work, I don't know that I'll be writing any frontend for osx. My interest here is in the generalized PREFIX install. On 11/1/05, Grobian <grobian@gentoo.org> wrote: > In general, I'm not impressed by the performance of Python. I'm not > impressed by the language itself either, but that's just taste. If > you'd create such program, I'd be happy with it too ;) > > > m h wrote: > > What would make a objective c program any faster than python in this > > case? It doesn't seem like it would be cpu bound. > > If you use pyobjc you get a "native" gui (and you can use py2app to > > create a "native" application), you just get to program parts of it in > > a nicer language. > > > > On 11/1/05, Grobian <grobian@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> Well, I envisioned a some sort of 'fast' application which doesn't > >> needlessly eat gigabytes of memory and also looks like a native Mac > >> application. > >> > >> m h wrote: > >>> There's also pyobjc which allows integration of python and cocoa.... > >> > >> -- > >> Fabian Groffen > >> Gentoo for Mac OS X Project -- Interim Lead > >> -- > >> gentoo-osx@gentoo.org mailing list > >> > >> > > > > -- > Fabian Groffen > Gentoo for Mac OS X Project -- Interim Lead > -- > gentoo-osx@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-osx@gentoo.org mailing list