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From: Nathan <nathan.stocks@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-osx] New document: Project targets
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On 12/14/05, Dirk Sch=F6nberger <dirk.schoenberger@sz-online.de> wrote:
> > To be honest, I don't really care about the name, but I don't feel li=
ke
> > having huge discussions about it either. We just chose something mor=
e
> > sexy than /sw. Besides that, having chosen a default, doesn't mean y=
ou
> > need to use it. We could name it like
> > /Library/GentooPortageInstalledPackages, but that really looks ugly i=
n
> > your paths. Luckly there is shell completion, but it still is a bit =
too
> > ugly to me.
> > Finally, this is just a minor side issue, that I feel is completely
> > irrelevant regarding the state of the project.
>
> Sorry to be obnoxious, but I think the topic is rather relevant, at lea=
st
> IMHO.
> Basically you (Gentoo for OSX) have the problem, that you have to work =
on a
> system
> which is not really prepared to work with a system like Gentoo.
>
> The MacOSX file system hierarchy is a mix of two subsystems.
>
> First there is its Unix heritage, i.e. the /usr, /dev, /etc, /var hiera=
rchy,
> Second there is more modern "MacOS usability system" (for lack of bette=
r
> words).
> The second system has whole other assumptions about what is in a syster=
m.
> Basically you have a set of applications
> (as app folders), in the /Applications folder, and components which pla=
y a
> support role to these applications, namely the
> /Libary, ~/Library, /System/Library hierarchy.
>
> Additionally at least the Mac default system is implemented so that the=
Unix
> hierarchy is hidden, i.e. not visible from the GUI system
> (finder)
>
> Conceptionally Gentoo belongs more to the Unix hierarchy, basically it =
tries
> to supplant a the static Mac Unix subsystem by a more dynamic,
> package managed system. Most (or at least currently all) of these packa=
ges
> are not suitable to a GUI system.
>
> So they should not be part of the second file system items.
>
> I think Gentoo should at least try to be a correct citizen on a Mac sys=
tem,
> this includes it should honour the system assumptions.
>
> Regards
> Dirk
You're getting rather stuck on a tiny little issue for a system that
doesn't really exist yet. It's just a string! Rest assured that
before the final product is released the "correct" default path will
be selected. Until then, the system doesn't exist, and when it does,
you should be able to set it to whatever you want anyway, whethere
that's /Library/Gentoo, /opt/g2, or
/Volumes/usbdrive/.hidden/far_away/big/long/path/to/gentoo
~ Nathan
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