From: "Dirk Schönberger" <dirk.schoenberger@sz-online.de>
To: <gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-osx] New document: Project targets
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:36:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <00f501c60291$2d02a7a0$14b2a8c0@rincewind> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20051216221614.GZ14948@gentoo.org
> How does the absense of a read-only file-system affect the ability to
> have a union-mount only 'visible' for a specific user or user-process?
> Or is this read-only thing necessary to solve another problem?
> Essential for the union-mount solution to work, is that it can at
> least be *only* visible/available for a given (user) process. Otherwise
> your system is less different from a progressive system. Still in that
> case, the union-mount solution might have some advantages, like simple
> repair, and a backup procedure (unmount the union-mount, or restart the
> machine -- assuming you didn't add the union-mount to fstab).
The idea seems to be that you have a "live" version of the host system (real
"/", which is mounted read-only and unioned with
a copy on write system).
Current Darwin only allows .dmg or mounting from an unmounted device. In
both cases the underlying system is
intrinsically read-only, i.e. the union fs is not really needed.
I don't think it is a good idea to unomount / remount read-only your root
file system.
If you clone a existing installation and mount this, I think you have
effectively a progressive system. This approach is mentioned in the
entoo-macos bootstrap howto.
That the union file system is visible to all processes becomes a secondary
problem (I think it just means that you could have only one parallel
Gentoo union / chroot)
The basic problem with the Darwin unionfs implementation is that you have to
have a (read-only) file system in the first place, which you can union to.
As far as I understand the Linux version (which may be only a wishlist entry
resp. a specification, you can do things like
mount folder1 read-only U folder2 read-only U folder 3 read-write (where U
is a concatenation operator)
The FreeBSD soltuins divides these usecases into the actual union (unionfs),
and the mount from a subfolder of a mounted deice (nullfs)
Regards
Dirk
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2005-12-16 15:17 [gentoo-osx] New document: Project targets Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-16 15:24 ` Grobian
2005-12-16 15:30 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-16 17:40 ` Grobian
2005-12-16 21:02 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-16 22:16 ` Grobian
2005-12-16 22:36 ` Dirk Schönberger [this message]
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2005-12-16 15:09 Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-13 13:37 Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-14 5:41 ` Finn Thain
2005-12-14 9:10 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-14 19:12 ` Marcin Gabrowski
2005-12-14 19:25 ` Grobian
2005-12-14 19:58 ` Marcin Gabrowski
2005-12-14 19:15 ` Marcin Gabrowski
2005-12-12 9:01 Grobian
2005-12-12 16:36 ` Nathan
2005-12-12 18:00 ` Grobian
2005-12-12 18:21 ` Nathan
2005-12-12 19:29 ` Grobian
2005-12-14 19:11 ` Marcin Gabrowski
2005-12-14 19:22 ` Grobian
2005-12-14 20:18 ` Marcin Gabrowski
2005-12-14 20:26 ` Grobian
2005-12-14 21:22 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-14 21:27 ` Nathan
2005-12-14 21:29 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-14 21:39 ` Grobian
2005-12-14 21:43 ` Nathan
2005-12-14 22:01 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-14 22:12 ` Nathan
2005-12-14 22:33 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-14 22:56 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-14 23:06 ` Nathan
2005-12-14 23:36 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-15 7:22 ` Grobian
2005-12-15 8:33 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-15 15:02 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-15 15:10 ` Grobian
2005-12-15 7:12 ` Grobian
2005-12-14 23:02 ` Marcin Gabrowski
2005-12-14 23:42 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-15 0:35 ` Marcin Gabrowski
2005-12-15 7:27 ` Grobian
2005-12-15 8:27 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-15 9:36 ` Marcin Gabrowski
2005-12-15 9:47 ` Dirk Schönberger
2005-12-15 11:17 ` Marcin Gabrowski
2005-12-15 14:29 ` Grobian
2005-12-14 21:31 ` Grobian
2005-12-12 19:46 ` Grobian
2005-12-13 9:03 ` Grobian
2005-12-15 20:28 ` Grobian
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