Hi, everyone. As some of you have read, I have proposed a new privacy-oriented voting frontend for Gentoo [1]. However, the whole idea was rendered pretty much pointless by Trustees demanding information on who cast a vote. This is currently used to determine 'interest in Foundation', and therefore kick inactive Foundation members. To be honest, I think it's misguided, for three reasons: 1. It intrudes on privacy of voters. I suppose it's not *that major* but still I don't think it's appropriate to publish a 'shame list' of people who haven't voted for whatever reason. 2. It introduces a big weakness in the system. My whole idea was to make it practically impossible to sniff votes after the election is prepared. With this solution, anyone with sufficient privileges (election officials, infra) can trivially passively sniff votes. 3. It is really meaningless. Casting a vote does not really indicate any interest in GF. It only indicates that someone has done the minimal effort to avoid being kicked. There is no reason to conflate the two. I believe we should consider other options of determining activity. Depending on whether we actually want to keep people actually interested in GF, or just those caring enough to stay, I can think of a few options. The most obvious solution would be to take AGM attendance as indication of interest. It would also create an interest in actually attending, and make it possible to finally reach a quorum. However, it's rather a poor idea given that AGMs tend to happen in middle of the night for European devs. We would probably have to accept excuses for not attending, and then measuring attendance will probably be meaningless anyway. Another option (which some people aren't going to like) is to require all Foundation members to be Gentoo devs (but not the other way around), and then terminate GF membership along with developer status. Given that there's only a few non-dev members, and most of them are retired devs whose membership simply didn't terminate by existing rules yet, I think there shouldn't really be a problem in making the few interested members non-commit devs by existing rules. Finally, if we really don't care we could just send pings and terminate membership of people that don't answer in time. This is pretty much similar to the current idea with voting, except it doesn't pretend to be meaningful. WDYT? [1] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/message/6977bf6f9b72a17847fdc93afd4d9a9f -- Best regards, Michał Górny