From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C4021382C5 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71703E0B30; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io0-x233.google.com (mail-io0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 32B6EE0B30 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2018 00:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io0-x233.google.com with SMTP id q84so444110iod.10 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:16:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=funtoo-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Ht3fjr1vEhpIGLDVTwtP8SdYQFN1H0NQfeCYdMT+/ns=; b=P8jAp16RIpU7Gvlt/bBJ6iq4hegeBAeE32aK2siQOX2FuJ3NPf1xo+dVzp4GuaiPwR AXtot97M096Ka8mgp7WR8bCVYe+6PvxNTY+Tq+aBPAJNayKd6zcLLFbokXYAPFhHbN7n wVDpjFO0H/aevH1s91JYzeo7i6Wy1FoFGmGUt2laPZ05dP93bZiCp2SJRLpUq1Cq2T/A iR/ZyHUBWUxaOdyjjIL2vUMHV7kq/AUOmf7PI4aivf7wCx/rrmxVhfvhuMqgtJaZbQ/7 jerxqgKv6EUzf8gcv5R5SsOAJ3kcjRdSyWrJ9k7nKz1CJ45v/1C+kf4vwOUl1kf3pDAp suuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Ht3fjr1vEhpIGLDVTwtP8SdYQFN1H0NQfeCYdMT+/ns=; b=L28izmc0y5L22azMAPy3OVvIGyP4O7CBuOMIPEpO55vKLUk+XYth3YWwpQoksavIum 9eol4Hm8ywVfUfXEAf4wLsYxpxaxjrNSbJrJWVfYjNx1O9CPKMKQ2SiLDR+DoYXFXWvl FBeNQC42GvzlfX3OUYQwbTqcl0/Q265DSJWLBkoWZURo2vhmTBt47GKt5xtrCozVgXNs +jPcCSQIjCPUXffQHE8T7GnuJk3hoUDiWU9O2EEo5lfhmgOYByhX/luDAPBZ686jDO/V uNU3atMO3+GO5NiEem7dyS4AOFQ71Buo/IOh2dzAHq0IyV4PMwl/u/xgp9L4tiGuhYND WBjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tDlKbtJwdCaMGhSRmwZ1SUF5wCZOqGfL5TXkYMMlXCZzOkV2OZc 6jOugEBLRb+FOkNp7hUf84wqs/DQzrl5HyijcxfZFpyN4+M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4/foGqp8m9Lc477EjkprVVLr1nhewpwIcQJLdRMcmNUU+hTs2i7M7EFZvPx5K3JSBc2pa89P5L9VRDr5m/Yq0k= X-Received: by 10.107.101.21 with SMTP id z21mr2562690iob.3.1523405770481; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.78.215 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:16:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Robbins Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:16:09 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-nfp] Foundation status -- good and bad -- and suggested steps To: gentoo-nfp Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="089e082d0838cc8e1f0569878bc2" X-Archives-Salt: be4824f1-e33b-4d96-a4ab-75d93c8959d9 X-Archives-Hash: e2b54fce39c532d28e2b4f68184e4304 --089e082d0838cc8e1f0569878bc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi All, I know there has been a lot of concern about the state of the Foundation. I have been concerned (and confused) too. So I have done my own research and wanted to share the results of my findings. You can view the official status of the Foundation here: https://portal.sos.state.nm.us/BFS/online/CorporationBusinessSearch/CorporationBusinessInformation You will see that this list of trustees is current, the Foundation is active and in good standing with the state of New Mexico. This is a very good thing, because it is the state of New Mexico that grants the Foundation its existence, after which the Foundation can apply for things like Federal not-for-profit status. So the status that the Foundation has with the state of New Mexico is actually the thing that is of the utmost importance. Regarding filings with the Federal government and financial reports, it does appear that over the years the Foundation has not kept up with this very well and this needs to be addressed. I have made my recommendation to the trustees that they reach out to Eben Moglen at the Software Freedom Law Center for assistance, as this is specifically the type of assistance that they provide to free software projects. This does not require becoming a sub-organization under the SFLC, or letting the SFLC 'run' the project. You simply ask them for assistance, and they provide the assistance. Eben and others at the SFLC have assisted Funtoo in the past and have been very helpful and supportive. I am sure they will be happy to help Gentoo. So, in summary, based on my research, the Foundation's existence is not in question. The federal filings simply need to get done. There is no need for the Foundation to be dissolved, nor is it necessary to move things under an umbrella organization. The Foundation simply needs assistance to catch up on the outstanding items that need to get done, and this is really not a hard task, especially with the help of the SFLC. I think the task has been a bit intimidating for those new to tax paperwork, and that has been why it has progressed slowly in the past. All that needs to be done is to make a request to the SFLC for assistance, and from my perspective this problem is essentially taken care of. Best, Daniel --089e082d0838cc8e1f0569878bc2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,

I know there has been a lot of = concern about the state of the Foundation. I have been concerned=C2=A0 (and= confused) too. So I have done my own research and wanted to share the resu= lts of my findings.

You can view the official stat= us of the Foundation here:


You w= ill see that this list of trustees is current, the Foundation is active and= in good standing with the state of New Mexico. This is a very good thing, = because it is the state of New Mexico that grants the Foundation its existe= nce, after which the Foundation can apply for things like Federal not-for-p= rofit status. So the status that the Foundation has with the state of New M= exico is actually the thing that is of the utmost importance.
Regarding filings with the Federal government and financial rep= orts, it does appear that over the years the Foundation has not kept up wit= h this very well and this needs to be addressed. I have made my recommendat= ion to the trustees that they reach out to Eben Moglen at the Software Free= dom Law Center for assistance, as this is specifically the type of assistan= ce that they provide to free software projects. This does not require becom= ing a sub-organization under the SFLC, or letting the SFLC 'run' th= e project. You simply ask them for assistance, and they provide the assista= nce.

Eben and others at the SFLC have assisted Fun= too in the past and have been very helpful and supportive. I am sure they w= ill be happy to help Gentoo.

So, in summary, based= on my research, the Foundation's existence is not in question. The fed= eral filings simply need to get done. There is no need for the Foundation t= o be dissolved, nor is it necessary to move things under an umbrella organi= zation. The Foundation simply needs assistance to catch up on the outstandi= ng items that need to get done, and this is really not a hard task, especia= lly with the help of the SFLC. I think the task has been a bit intimidating= for those new to tax paperwork, and that has been why it has progressed sl= owly in the past. All that needs to be done is to make a request to the SFL= C for assistance, and from my perspective this problem is essentially taken= care of.

Best,

Daniel

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