From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C1B6139694 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCDF323406B; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-x229.google.com (mail-yw0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C77F23406B for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-x229.google.com with SMTP id l21so11437230ywb.1 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 07:46:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=462rTEXm1autOLHf8gqBH9VAFO6GgY+b8+TdixzUaEM=; b=kEyMWLlHOBNvbw1cT2AHEj6SF3qMO+eprDaXdE0JyqeixN7QlbHbjgTYIMzccVIxuf CEvGn4cHlu9FVRPOkWYc/S5LjjaARUCVDTid4GoPJSGkBkGLUyWQT61Sij/8u0uecvtu ili2AHRGUKfhtaJzc75XGGYZ7n51eGZazfnI1MgBCood0poyh3KAisecSQsfc3WzFosA lDBLboDIfER/nVi/vIDcZN7H9SMUmK7Ez5THEhWyW3eE1r2aAueYGj1rlZ8IVCftPB/p 2b2nTS1jNzz9s1XnvtVhNLNT9Ff+lxYYOo6xepYacDhe9GRtZH4nNXu4prIOMZXKnCwB TQCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=462rTEXm1autOLHf8gqBH9VAFO6GgY+b8+TdixzUaEM=; b=DNsYpOOJK15qPlhtDME9QgkCMSondFW2YtBIBr2QApzTAR0Rs/YezWBmusfvJ7Euis L9hHndXPH4bBD5XkrbsEOyrTDCTrIGzCgNCwe3R4GTsMOYVYZhYM71o62wxtLZijP/XI iUdtJqCqEHZGdy2MfvCAuLSa6BpnsxZS2Fu6WZxlnoEB2OFwyvCoff3u9F3H2j8+vKdj suVPlIBgWAsHu2GzJmI7nL+zLFfltpI5HcmgPpzfb8a5nbMYI66p+NwYxCn3LvYbjnjO kst+dHKiut/Pv1GNOFaCIE3WTAiFXlNlqwHR4uF7q5uK0sfP4UP+lSqH/eGoGLTcr4p9 CNKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw112O14/RDKwhFtjMp8i/hTKCYrnDLKfxB2gqsaRAHwA/AlocjpiY 8d+GBxtTSTDqOwbej2l61J55IpKM4w== X-Received: by 10.13.227.135 with SMTP id m129mr1604378ywe.15.1499870795460; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 07:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.129.115.212 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2017 07:46:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <62ad076d-c929-cf68-4561-040217499598@gentoo.org> References: <20170712145641.4aa04f928480f1881c58fa39@gentoo.org> <4e1e070b-aab4-e0bf-3973-6bbf86d48a4f@gentoo.org> <62ad076d-c929-cf68-4561-040217499598@gentoo.org> From: Rich Freeman Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:46:34 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: eWyAbd_0MAwG-vI3q3RXS9gzjlo Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Consequences of moving the Gentoo foundation somewhere else (Was: Gentoo Foundation Trustees nominations) To: "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)" Cc: gentoo-nfp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 3b0e4c03-ff51-4e6d-8256-3aad815a55ce X-Archives-Hash: 82c7c8afcdedf6ba25e48bcdb2a4bb58 On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike) wrote: > El 12/07/17 a las 16:15, Rich Freeman escribi=C3=B3: > >> 2. Tax benefits for US donors, assuming we ever get 501c3 status. >> I'm not sure how important this really is, but a LOT of organizations >> set up 501c3s in the US for this reason alone. > Similar benefits exist in other places of the world, in Spain for > example Not for US donors. If you want US donors to get a tax break you need to have a US 501c3. Of course similar arrangements exist for donors in other countries. That would be one of the benefits for having multiple organizations. You basically end up needing orgs in any country where you get a lot of donations. Most big orgs that get a lot of donations tend to get a lot of these donations in the US, so having donors being able to tax-deduct in the US is a big benefit for them. It wasn't intended to be a US-is-better-than-Spain/etc comment. > > In our case, since exploitation of Gentoo can happen anywhere on the > world such should be the main frameworks we should be used to as USA > can't put fines or anything for actions carried out of their jurisdiction= . > Somebody needs to tell the US government that, because the US enforces extraterritoriality all the time. The US also still exerts a lot of control over the underlying internet infrastructure which it tends to use to its advantage quite a bit. Just look at the RIAA-vs-the-world situation. Sure, it is whack a mole but there is no question that they manage to get US interests enforced all over the place. I'm not saying that is a good thing. However, the fact is that a judgment in a US court will get you a lot further than a judgement in a lot of other courts, because the US tends to throw its weight around. If we ever find ourselves wanting to wield that power "for good" then it could be useful to have access to it. That was really the only point I was trying to make. It is something to think about. --=20 Rich