From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DAA6138334 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D4F9E0AF2; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pl0-f54.google.com (mail-pl0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B15A8E0AF2 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 21:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pl0-f54.google.com with SMTP id p23-v6so1027333plo.6 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 14:42:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=lA2jk5100iZ6ETkKbaf5V2cS2Ud7+8JMBLphUoMT+vw=; b=JqdkWYMqKkN03cvkNIdJ0lHRd9D/4Q85Rc8Y1EKaq11JMFMgStIKGKY+03VmLSrA/P E3q7KoF3KTK+G9q1NLTM3BBfINxzV2Bnt5u1b6QusyPu6WkKJWOwVPI3DQmakjWVb2um juYTI3EdfwI+/KMxSCEFLPZUcjDIQVm9mWVNFhPaLaJqLDCmx0rg0kHKw/KxQRlqz13x YgXQOT6UMpxEGiNrj2Iv8Rk/+4zi7145vYZIUoHH7ED/6IiUaTgsD30mJJSiiVH+WIBu yDIzAOJIFy/Ro9nW5egCzzkmcoZAYWLqHcK7ytVil+fpeeoND8gauFqExeBMgTdI/Irz taOg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlEJAgDXywDgJKAPOpwSY3Ktz1oqSaao/DnB0gQfD2vK1202xP4I Mow/kUgfWyzZ77YXSrm9abYr0BPBQEnFJuaRNiLXRA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcvizXacMM+EL0j6THHiVfSr4mDgC4LREQ/HOKsy5MaOqn22o9S4zhalzohZlLbMPKVGwFswDQkiLNwZbFzn7U= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:8b86:: with SMTP id ay6-v6mr3227678plb.295.1531863758440; Tue, 17 Jul 2018 14:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180716212141.GA11692@monkey> <20180717190458.GC11692@monkey> <20180717192924.GB7557@monkey> <20180717205929.GA10507@monkey> In-Reply-To: From: Rich Freeman Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 17:42:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Trustee nomination: Aaron Bauman (bman) To: gentoo-nfp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: b2b01cb5-6c9f-4197-98cb-13e4e4d79d3f X-Archives-Hash: 4c4ced7c229c536428aea2121030f27e On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 5:16 PM Alec Warner wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:59 PM, Aaron Bauman wrote: >> >> > So my objection in private is the same as my objection in public. In theory >> > the current board is accountable to the foundation members. >> >> In reality, they are not accountable legally. > > I don't follow. Why not? The board already has a duty of care to operate the nonprofit. That is actually pretty limited under New Mexico law, and I'm not sure if further restrictions can actually be imposed by the org (and even if they could be, I'm not sure this is desirable). And that makes sense, because otherwise every recreational football league/etc would find it impossible to get people to volunteer to run it. The more strict requirements tend to come into play for for-profit businesses, and especially for those that are publicly traded. Ultimately, you get what you pay for, and collectively as a community we aren't paying for much. Nor, IMO, should we be. -- Rich