* [gentoo-nfp] Council-202406 Election results
2024-06-28 10:29 ` Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan
@ 2024-07-02 9:28 ` Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan
2024-07-02 9:39 ` [gentoo-nfp] Trustees-202406 " Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan @ 2024-07-02 9:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-project; +Cc: gentoo-nfp
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Hi Team,
Your votes have been counted, and the results are in!
You should by now have received your confirmation id in a separate
e-mail, please use it to find and verify your anonymized vote in the
attached ballot master file.
Turnout for the election this year was:
Eligable voters: 111
Submitted votes: 40
Pending votes: 1
Turnout: 36.036%
Pending Turnout: 36.937%
The final ranking of this years candidates is:
sam
dilfridge
mgorny
arthurzam
ulm
robbat2
soap
ajak
_reopen_nominations
The full output of countify is also attached.
The council consists of seven members which means that this years
council members will be: sam, dilfridge, mgorny, arthurzam, ulm, robbat2
and soap. Congratulations!
I'd like to take the opportunity to also thank our departing council
members, ajak and mattst88, for their time on the council.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to drop by #gentoo-elections
or to e-mail the officials at elections@gentoo.org.
Best regards,
Andrew
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--------- confirmation 027a9aa6 ---------
dilfridge ulm robbat2
sam
soap
mgorny
arthurzam
ajak
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 084551b1 ---------
ulm
dilfridge
robbat2
soap
mgorny
sam
arthurzam
ajak
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 0a8dbbef ---------
mgorny ulm sam dilfridge
soap arthurzam ajak robbat2
--------- confirmation 11227a7a ---------
dilfridge
arthurzam robbat2
sam
ulm
mgorny
_reopen_nominations
ajak
soap
--------- confirmation 188eac9a ---------
ajak arthurzam dilfridge mgorny sam soap
robbat2
_reopen_nominations
ulm
--------- confirmation 1faeb794 ---------
_reopen_nominations
dilfridge mgorny robbat2 arthurzam sam ajak soap ulm
--------- confirmation 2299e183 ---------
sam
dilfridge
arthurzam
ulm
ajak
mgorny
soap
robbat2
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 2d65f1ec ---------
sam
ulm
mgorny
dilfridge
robbat2
ajak
arthurzam
soap
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 3824539c ---------
robbat2
sam
mgorny
ajak soap ulm arthurzam dilfridge
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 5081a62d ---------
soap
sam
ajak
dilfridge
arthurzam
mgorny
robbat2
_reopen_nominations
ulm
--------- confirmation 542ec6d2 ---------
sam
ajak
mgorny
dilfridge
arthurzam
robbat2
ulm
soap
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 677837bd ---------
robbat2
sam ajak ulm
dilfridge arthurzam
_reopen_nominations
mgorny
soap
--------- confirmation 6ec50a30 ---------
robbat2
ulm
sam
ajak
arthurzam
_reopen_nominations
mgorny dilfridge soap
--------- confirmation 6efcf8fa ---------
sam
soap
arthurzam
ajak
dilfridge
mgorny
ulm
robbat2
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 732bec77 ---------
sam mgorny dilfridge
ulm arthurzam ajak
robbat2 soap
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 76181d43 ---------
dilfridge sam
soap arthurzam
robbat2 ajak mgorny ulm
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 797c2be1 ---------
sam dilfridge ulm arthurzam mgorny robbat2
ajak soap
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 7d895034 ---------
sam soap ajak ulm
dilfridge arthurzam mgorny robbat2
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 7e58f501 ---------
sam
soap
dilfridge
robbat2
arthurzam
ulm
mgorny
ajak
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 8170b480 ---------
sam ulm dilfridge soap robbat2 ajak mgorny arthurzam
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 8448d197 ---------
sam
robbat2
ulm
arthurzam
dilfridge
ajak
soap
mgorny
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 88389eba ---------
arthurzam
mgorny
sam
dilfridge
soap
robbat2
ulm
ajak
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 895c7391 ---------
mgorny
sam
ulm
dilfridge
robbat2
soap
arthurzam ajak
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 8a6e6103 ---------
mgorny ulm
robbat2 sam
ajak dilfridge soap
_reopen_nominations
arthurzam
--------- confirmation a8eb8d8f ---------
soap
sam
ajak
mgorny
arthurzam
dilfridge
ulm
_reopen_nominations
robbat2
--------- confirmation b1ee7f31 ---------
sam
dilfridge
arthurzam
robbat2
soap
ajak
ulm
mgorny
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation b23eeb9a ---------
robbat2 arthurzam sam ulm dilfridge
ajak
soap
_reopen_nominations
mgorny
--------- confirmation b69effff ---------
dilfridge
mgorny
ulm
soap
sam
ajak
arthurzam
robbat2
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation b8040cf6 ---------
sam mgorny
arthurzam
dilfridge
ulm
robbat2
soap
ajak
--------- confirmation bb4b328f ---------
sam arthurzam mgorny
dilfridge ulm
robbat2
soap
ajak
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation c7c4ab31 ---------
soap sam ajak mgorny dilfridge
arthurzam
ulm
robbat2
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation c921b97b ---------
dilfridge
sam
mgorny ajak
arthurzam
ulm
robbat2
_reopen_nominations
soap
--------- confirmation cb14aba5 ---------
mgorny
sam
soap
dilfridge ajak
arthurzam
ulm
robbat2
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation cff603f0 ---------
robbat2 sam
dilfridge ulm mgorny
ajak arthurzam soap
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation d9c5911e ---------
dilfridge robbat2
ulm sam arthurzam
soap
mgorny
ajak
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation dcd30c03 ---------
dilfridge sam ulm
ajak soap mgorny robbat2 arthurzam
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation e533501d ---------
sam
dilfridge
arthurzam
mgorny
robbat2
soap
ajak
ulm
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation ec0f38fb ---------
ulm
robbat2
dilfridge
arthurzam
soap
mgorny
sam
ajak
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation f2ed0a22 ---------
sam
mgorny
arthurzam
dilfridge
ulm
soap
robbat2
ajak
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation f8ebcf92 ---------
sam
mgorny
soap
dilfridge
ulm
robbat2
ajak
_reopen_nominations
arthurzam
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_reopen_nominations
arthurzam
dilfridge
mgorny
robbat2
_reop ajak arthu dilfr mgorn robba sam soap ulm
_reopen_nominations *** 2 3 2 4 2 1 5 3
ajak 38 *** 13 7 11 12 0 10 10
arthurzam 37 18 *** 8 15 18 3 19 18
dilfridge 38 26 24 *** 18 26 7 26 21
mgorny 36 22 18 12 *** 21 7 21 18
robbat2 38 23 14 7 13 *** 8 21 14
sam 39 34 30 23 24 26 *** 30 25
soap 35 19 13 7 13 14 5 *** 12
ulm 37 23 15 9 15 20 6 24 ***
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (ajak trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat ajak)
option ajak is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats ajak, and ajak does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option arthurzam is eliminated (dilfridge trans-defeats arthurzam, and arthurzam does not trans-defeat dilfridge)
option dilfridge is eliminated (sam trans-defeats dilfridge, and dilfridge does not trans-defeat sam)
option mgorny is eliminated (dilfridge trans-defeats mgorny, and mgorny does not trans-defeat dilfridge)
option robbat2 is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats robbat2, and robbat2 does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option soap is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats soap, and soap does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option ulm is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats ulm, and ulm does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
the Schwartz set is {sam}
result: option sam wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop ajak arthu dilfr mgorn robba sam soap ulm
_reopen_nominations *** 2 3 2 4 2 1 5 3
ajak 38 *** 13 7 11 12 0 10 10
arthurzam 37 18 *** 8 15 18 3 19 18
dilfridge 38 26 24 *** 18 26 7 26 21
mgorny 36 22 18 12 *** 21 7 21 18
robbat2 38 23 14 7 13 *** 8 21 14
sam -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1
soap 35 19 13 7 13 14 5 *** 12
ulm 37 23 15 9 15 20 6 24 ***
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (ajak trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat ajak)
option ajak is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats ajak, and ajak does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option arthurzam is eliminated (dilfridge trans-defeats arthurzam, and arthurzam does not trans-defeat dilfridge)
option mgorny is eliminated (dilfridge trans-defeats mgorny, and mgorny does not trans-defeat dilfridge)
option robbat2 is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats robbat2, and robbat2 does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option soap is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats soap, and soap does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option ulm is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats ulm, and ulm does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
the Schwartz set is {dilfridge}
result: option dilfridge wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop ajak arthu dilfr mgorn robba sam soap ulm
_reopen_nominations *** 2 3 2 4 2 1 5 3
ajak 38 *** 13 7 11 12 0 10 10
arthurzam 37 18 *** 8 15 18 3 19 18
dilfridge -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
mgorny 36 22 18 12 *** 21 7 21 18
robbat2 38 23 14 7 13 *** 8 21 14
sam -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1
soap 35 19 13 7 13 14 5 *** 12
ulm 37 23 15 9 15 20 6 24 ***
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (ajak trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat ajak)
option ajak is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats ajak, and ajak does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option arthurzam is eliminated (mgorny trans-defeats arthurzam, and arthurzam does not trans-defeat mgorny)
option robbat2 is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats robbat2, and robbat2 does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option soap is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats soap, and soap does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option ulm is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats ulm, and ulm does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
the Schwartz set is {mgorny}
result: option mgorny wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop ajak arthu dilfr mgorn robba sam soap ulm
_reopen_nominations *** 2 3 2 4 2 1 5 3
ajak 38 *** 13 7 11 12 0 10 10
arthurzam 37 18 *** 8 15 18 3 19 18
dilfridge -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
mgorny -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1
robbat2 38 23 14 7 13 *** 8 21 14
sam -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1
soap 35 19 13 7 13 14 5 *** 12
ulm 37 23 15 9 15 20 6 24 ***
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (ajak trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat ajak)
option ajak is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats ajak, and ajak does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option robbat2 is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats robbat2, and robbat2 does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option soap is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats soap, and soap does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
option ulm is eliminated (arthurzam trans-defeats ulm, and ulm does not trans-defeat arthurzam)
the Schwartz set is {arthurzam}
result: option arthurzam wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop ajak arthu dilfr mgorn robba sam soap ulm
_reopen_nominations *** 2 3 2 4 2 1 5 3
ajak 38 *** 13 7 11 12 0 10 10
arthurzam -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
dilfridge -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
mgorny -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1
robbat2 38 23 14 7 13 *** 8 21 14
sam -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1
soap 35 19 13 7 13 14 5 *** 12
ulm 37 23 15 9 15 20 6 24 ***
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (ajak trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat ajak)
option ajak is eliminated (robbat2 trans-defeats ajak, and ajak does not trans-defeat robbat2)
option robbat2 is eliminated (ulm trans-defeats robbat2, and robbat2 does not trans-defeat ulm)
option soap is eliminated (robbat2 trans-defeats soap, and soap does not trans-defeat robbat2)
the Schwartz set is {ulm}
result: option ulm wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop ajak arthu dilfr mgorn robba sam soap ulm
_reopen_nominations *** 2 3 2 4 2 1 5 3
ajak 38 *** 13 7 11 12 0 10 10
arthurzam -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
dilfridge -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
mgorny -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1
robbat2 38 23 14 7 13 *** 8 21 14
sam -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1
soap 35 19 13 7 13 14 5 *** 12
ulm -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (ajak trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat ajak)
option ajak is eliminated (robbat2 trans-defeats ajak, and ajak does not trans-defeat robbat2)
option soap is eliminated (robbat2 trans-defeats soap, and soap does not trans-defeat robbat2)
the Schwartz set is {robbat2}
result: option robbat2 wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop ajak arthu dilfr mgorn robba sam soap ulm
_reopen_nominations *** 2 3 2 4 2 1 5 3
ajak 38 *** 13 7 11 12 0 10 10
arthurzam -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
dilfridge -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
mgorny -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1
robbat2 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1
sam -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1
soap 35 19 13 7 13 14 5 *** 12
ulm -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (ajak trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat ajak)
option ajak is eliminated (soap trans-defeats ajak, and ajak does not trans-defeat soap)
the Schwartz set is {soap}
result: option soap wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop ajak arthu dilfr mgorn robba sam soap ulm
_reopen_nominations *** 2 3 2 4 2 1 5 3
ajak 38 *** 13 7 11 12 0 10 10
arthurzam -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
dilfridge -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
mgorny -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1
robbat2 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1
sam -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1
soap -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1
ulm -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (ajak trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat ajak)
the Schwartz set is {ajak}
result: option ajak wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop ajak arthu dilfr mgorn robba sam soap ulm
_reopen_nominations *** 2 3 2 4 2 1 5 3
ajak -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
arthurzam -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
dilfridge -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
mgorny -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1 -1
robbat2 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1 -1
sam -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1 -1
soap -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++ -1
ulm -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 +++
the Schwartz set is {_reopen_nominations}
result: option _reopen_nominations wins
*** Finished ranking candidates ***
Final ranked list:
sam
dilfridge
mgorny
arthurzam
ulm
robbat2
soap
ajak
_reopen_nominations
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* [gentoo-nfp] Trustees-202406 Election results
2024-06-28 10:29 ` Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan
2024-07-02 9:28 ` [gentoo-nfp] Council-202406 Election results Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan
@ 2024-07-02 9:39 ` Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan
1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Nowa Ammerlaan @ 2024-07-02 9:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-nfp; +Cc: gentoo-project
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Hi Team,
Your votes have been counted, and the results are in!
You should by now have received your confirmation id in a separate
e-mail, please use it to find and verify your anonymized vote in the
attached ballot master file.
Turnout for the election this year was:
Eligable voters: 56
Submitted votes: 24
Pending votes: 1
Turnout: 42.857%
Pending Turnout: 44.643%
The final ranking of this years candidates is:
dilfridge
soap
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
The full output of countify is also attached.
Trustees are elected for a two year term. As a reminder, last year we
elected ulm and robbat2.
Since the board of trustees consists of five members, this years board
members will be: dilfridge, soap, prometheanfire, ulm and robbat2.
Congratulations!
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to drop by #gentoo-elections
or to e-mail the officials at elections@gentoo.org.
Best regards,
Andrew
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--------- confirmation 17deec24 ---------
dilfridge soap
_reopen_nominations
prometheanfire
--------- confirmation 2dc36e87 ---------
soap prometheanfire dilfridge
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 392172b8 ---------
dilfridge
prometheanfire soap
--------- confirmation 42dac719 ---------
soap
dilfridge
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 42f3e310 ---------
dilfridge soap
_reopen_nominations
prometheanfire
--------- confirmation 4a1e8341 ---------
dilfridge soap
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 4cd97952 ---------
dilfridge
soap prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 57989f4d ---------
soap
dilfridge
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 5818e57d ---------
soap dilfridge prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 5994dca3 ---------
dilfridge
soap
_reopen_nominations
prometheanfire
--------- confirmation 6286f215 ---------
soap prometheanfire dilfridge
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 6afa7fc7 ---------
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
soap
dilfridge
--------- confirmation 74137b3f ---------
soap
dilfridge
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 7af62499 ---------
dilfridge
soap
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 897ecf49 ---------
soap
dilfridge
_reopen_nominations
prometheanfire
--------- confirmation 98dc5951 ---------
dilfridge
soap
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation 9eb72946 ---------
soap dilfridge
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation a615989b ---------
dilfridge
prometheanfire
soap
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation a9dcf52c ---------
dilfridge
soap
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation d0650161 ---------
prometheanfire
dilfridge
soap
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation ed30242b ---------
dilfridge soap
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation ef034c51 ---------
dilfridge prometheanfire soap
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation f33d3c46 ---------
dilfridge prometheanfire soap
_reopen_nominations
--------- confirmation f899b5dc ---------
dilfridge
soap
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
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_reopen_nominations
dilfridge
prometheanfire
_reop dilfr prome soap
_reopen_nominations *** 1 4 1
dilfridge 23 *** 17 9
prometheanfire 20 2 *** 3
soap 23 5 14 ***
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (dilfridge trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat dilfridge)
option prometheanfire is eliminated (dilfridge trans-defeats prometheanfire, and prometheanfire does not trans-defeat dilfridge)
option soap is eliminated (dilfridge trans-defeats soap, and soap does not trans-defeat dilfridge)
the Schwartz set is {dilfridge}
result: option dilfridge wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop dilfr prome soap
_reopen_nominations *** 1 4 1
dilfridge -1 +++ -1 -1
prometheanfire 20 2 *** 3
soap 23 5 14 ***
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (prometheanfire trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat prometheanfire)
option prometheanfire is eliminated (soap trans-defeats prometheanfire, and prometheanfire does not trans-defeat soap)
the Schwartz set is {soap}
result: option soap wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop dilfr prome soap
_reopen_nominations *** 1 4 1
dilfridge -1 +++ -1 -1
prometheanfire 20 2 *** 3
soap -1 -1 -1 +++
option _reopen_nominations is eliminated (prometheanfire trans-defeats _reopen_nominations, and _reopen_nominations does not trans-defeat prometheanfire)
the Schwartz set is {prometheanfire}
result: option prometheanfire wins
*** Running another pass to find the next winners... ***
_reop dilfr prome soap
_reopen_nominations *** 1 4 1
dilfridge -1 +++ -1 -1
prometheanfire -1 -1 +++ -1
soap -1 -1 -1 +++
the Schwartz set is {_reopen_nominations}
result: option _reopen_nominations wins
*** Finished ranking candidates ***
Final ranked list:
dilfridge
soap
prometheanfire
_reopen_nominations
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