From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1651138334 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2018 14:07:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F33AE079E; Sun, 3 Jun 2018 14:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pg0-x243.google.com (mail-pg0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E256E079E for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2018 14:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg0-x243.google.com with SMTP id 15-v6so12949825pge.2 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2018 07:07:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=9FGGLuSg1p6KmhdaxgYvsxFI4Bu/ZABg0iex3qCS5wQ=; b=qj6XFSKxW35xBxPsM5gpyvBUFUZ/3DI4HcVA+Jk6b0hh25B0XgScQGg5qSkWrHPUQr m52+HJphv03sOKbpNdqIdGj9HCkotCiAreHM/Ue1VKo6gr7iZ3p6PdS4Wtnl05Gus1wZ tUr1/Q9zy2JQ4egSjQS061/wt2DP1eR9BLsIt/71IfswJZeTlRS2l8ZObso4ouZGkI9K C5YtdxpvKGcNflE7GRCi2Zj1EZ1bgVooaimmPOqFJOl6wQJaRXTdfjQd/BY8cWOqKm8V lC9FDNKSlJDkYPvUk08JVuh0ZD+6dRo2YNM+5ikcz1YpTTSZzp4WUScJQr2O2DO7FXMh sWpQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9FGGLuSg1p6KmhdaxgYvsxFI4Bu/ZABg0iex3qCS5wQ=; b=n7hglNc7ZM1K4WS/2RFNnplKniUczHM98sQDF2SCssaVM7xNTTt2G4LRjzUQ7kqPDG TTCMhdnUwM9jJjgLEuolf59lU0HxlEFKOK2o2NXWjB9jj+Oge3YAkwycKhu54bll/VZ1 sopNZOK7XNu05So/X4Y/IbYBu+eXy4ziHDdnO9DNnOL3fXb3Hwfm2hhg0GOQ4q/wzEeo y0q6rJYCMx6yDsnZCqJq6ugwo2mgt5qthGWn9hXA8ALXzZi7S7YQkE/tbWVlvf4Je7Wa Mb86iYUmXoHCjNiwtzjzMbkt+p5ome4v3X7tp2/k/XBoZL0YjtlVw2W423uOeLgbQHtX u5Iw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwcz45qy1ewW7XiY/GSI4swbb+vdxih8SA1m4SWOaE0PnKKa0l8n UX4g+8MK76tnrQz/nZO+gFnXVAy/OrseGEFpyqcWRw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKK3phvOVjG8T0rOJBmHMMKhTwffdO6XpkfE4y9XQ7n2TLeuKRYTClaKAl/TrMu6NMS/wEq/uZoqXwguqvAlr00= X-Received: by 2002:a63:b147:: with SMTP id g7-v6mr14245098pgp.379.1528034851563; Sun, 03 Jun 2018 07:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jmbsvicetto@gmail.com Received: by 2002:a17:90a:a88f:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2018 07:07:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <23314.29253.934080.636545@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <23314.29253.934080.636545@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 14:07:30 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 97Lh_aVa25wO3sibAsBuMpIG4vY Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] [RFC] Bylaws change: Lower the member quorum to 1/10 To: gentoo-nfp Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000882e9b056dbd5688" X-Archives-Salt: 58f8cbf5-536e-4a1a-8b28-0d74f1572c9b X-Archives-Hash: 8152eac42daea5fac3fabfc362382b5f --000000000000882e9b056dbd5688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Currently bylaws section 3.9 "Member Quorum" says in its first > paragraph: > > | Except as otherwise required by law, by the Certificate of > | Incorporation or by these Bylaws, one-third (1/3) of the members > | entitled to vote, represented in person, shall constitute a quorum > | at a meeting of members. > > a) I therefore propose to lower to the member quorum in section 3.9 > to the default value provided by law, namely to 1/10. Also, members > who cannot participate (e.g. because they are located in an adverse > timezone) should be able to be represented by a proxy: > > b) If the above should not be accepted, I propose to only lower the > quorum (i.e., no proxies): > > > > Ulrich > I don't recall if on previous bylaws discussions I've argued this point or not, or if it's even acceptable under US Law, but on Portugal, the rules for Associations Assemblies, to allow for decisions even when most members don't show up, allow to use the following on meeting announcements: A meeting announcement needs to be sent at least 8 days in advance by registered mail. The announcement sets the date and hour for the meeting and requires 50% of attendance. If there isn't a quorum, the announcement states that 30 minutes later the meeting will be held with as many members as are present. So, if possible by US Law, I'd argue we change the bylaws to state that the quorum shall be 1/3 or 1/10, but that if for any meeting there isn't a quorum, the meeting will be held 30 minutes later with as many members as are present. Regards, Jorge --000000000000882e9b056dbd5688 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= at, Jun 2, 2018 at 10:32 AM, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> = wrote:
Currently bylaws section 3.9 "= ;Member Quorum" says in its first
paragraph:

| Except as otherwise required by law, by the Certificate of
| Incorporation or by these Bylaws, one-third (1/3) of the members
| entitled to vote, represented in person, shall constitute a quorum
| at a meeting of members.

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Ulrich

I don't recall if on previous bylaws discussions I've argued this = point or not, or if it's even acceptable under US Law, but on Portugal,= the rules for Associations Assemblies, to allow for decisions even when mo= st members don't show up, allow to use the following on meeting announc= ements:

A meeting announcement need= s to be sent at least 8 days in advance by registered mail. The announcemen= t sets the date and hour for the meeting and requires 50% of attendance. If= there isn't a quorum, the announcement states that 30 minutes later th= e meeting will be held with as many members as are present.

So, if possible by US Law, I'd argue we change= the bylaws to state that the quorum shall be 1/3 or 1/10, but that if for = any meeting there isn't a quorum, the meeting will be held 30 minutes l= ater with as many members as are present.

Regards,
Jorge
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