From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02F441382C5 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 387A2E09E8; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:51:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ej1-x62f.google.com (mail-ej1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C121E09E8 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ej1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id dr13so10625260ejc.3 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:51:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gentoo-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yyYqZdX7J8Qtw9u9mLcdK3zweyECXWg9cP6yWqphSeg=; b=PwG5Or5/5CLi3X4pNPFk49O2Mr/49419Ok4Jnv1lU9m2agrKjPURhRVg6rbrFNF0gv Q0HeTZrl9HWx9cGWtebdRFqC1Nm1+aaje3xMA27ID0iZ9zet0UKlPKf2CSP+bmwshb7+ uyM/Jj2SZeSOFPbhIaxUAQyX1s7TfuCD1DfsmCdp4guJVqasIuXnxh7RMdhEdX8g76QZ eCndv/RSVYIsnXSSi8gAG1jD1RMhbg+Xg+yeXIP9m9Sy7JZD028XlmzBaa7kVJwiVuc5 oUEH9RlOhSMS8GqaHn4KyPh1csUMHK4i9Bh+cdwUvhBlXn1NlaZNkfx+Yiw9muoy2gch YQzw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=yyYqZdX7J8Qtw9u9mLcdK3zweyECXWg9cP6yWqphSeg=; b=YU2GkIAwp6aUVr6brW7S9p1ramuRrmgkNLpchSIILBkUfT8hxpjkSLq9suKAxXwaH6 Ka9fRZyYrM19XSoHGiGxpp2qilgmsxhkG+WmVhShazASu/0UE2As6dc7c4Bqu1GG5/sf MR4W5b75Ao/CTzYDh6rV/7CpQQgf1tC7VQRoqDeMvlCMfcf/sD8O9H8ZQiGirOgnOAbB FW1+KNUBXdDutIYf90nvQCm13rm50NBDmA3JnC3W5ZuLZI2fJwrR4N4FIaYTLuzNX6VT CfS/yOKkiwcRhSZjVH2xCJEevVMDpLHKkpjxK26ToA2GCMQwDlKOWejpniTnfGRm2x4q WuYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532cd27TszNy2n7Bo444BtscndI36OIMdzhD3mPP74lClfRtFXwg M6aAaTV0Q9u1+sqE4oHPRH7ZBq/eEtoiJwx1QepYDt+7 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyj7sAe9pBfGdPU9KM+X8rznwVV8grUNB2RXYhJJQg7a3ki1a6Tg8LfiZgHZmtKTObutFN8KEZRtqz6Lqf+qpo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:40d7:: with SMTP id a23mr3463108ejk.421.1593204677247; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <000001d64bf9$c966b660$5c342320$@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <000001d64bf9$c966b660$5c342320$@gentoo.org> From: Alec Warner Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:51:06 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Social contract and its effect on vendors and service delivery. To: gentoo-nfp Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d7b57805a902dec1" X-Archives-Salt: 59efcf55-1b35-4df0-b8ea-dbfd754a27f4 X-Archives-Hash: 90d2d8d56bb572ce4984b8673c13ad4d --000000000000d7b57805a902dec1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 1:38 PM Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > Hi, > > > Is it against the social contract to purchase these CDN services? > > Not from my P.O.V when the origin itself is under full control. > > Also, would you plan to block direct access once you set up a CDN service, > i.e. forcing everyone to use CDN services or would you still allow people > to hit services directly? For the latter it's just an additional offer so I > wouldn't expect any problems (isn't it the same like being present on > GitHub?). > I don't believe we have any rationale for restricting traffic in the way you describe, so no we would not force traffic to transit the CDN to the origin. -A > > > -- > Regards, > Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer > fpr: C4DD 695F A713 8F24 2AA1 5638 5849 7EE5 1D5D 74A5 > --000000000000d7b57805a902dec1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 1:38 PM Thomas De= utschmann <whissi@gentoo.org>= ; wrote:
Hi,

> Is it against the social contract to purchase these CDN services?

Not from my P.O.V when the origin itself is under full control.

Also, would you plan to block direct access once you set up a CDN service, = i.e. forcing everyone to use CDN services or would you still allow people t= o hit services directly? For the latter it's just an additional offer s= o I wouldn't expect any problems (isn't it the same like being pres= ent on GitHub?).

I don't believe we= have any rationale for restricting traffic in the way you describe, so no = we would not force traffic to transit the CDN to the origin.

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-A
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Regards,
Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer
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