On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 20:59 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> On 2019.07.13 20:03, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 16:50 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
> > > On 2019.07.13 14:39, Michał Górny wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 06:17 -0700, Raymond Jennings wrote:
> > > > > What are your plans regarding future relations between the
> > trustees
> > > > and the
> > > > > council?  I noted that the council isn't even mentioned in the
> > > > bylaws
> > > > 
> > > > I've answered this in detail in my Manifesto [1].
> > > > 
> > > > Long story short, I believe the distribution should be
> > self-governing,
> > > > and Foundation should support it without interfering
> > unnecessarily. 
> > > > This means that Council makes the majority of the decisions
> > regarding
> > > > Gentoo, and Trustees should work with the Council and respect
> > > > the decisions made by it.
> > > > 
> > > > [1] https://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/trustee-manifesto-2019.txt
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Michał Górny
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Michał,
> > > 
> > > The ideals "self-governing" and "professional umbrella" appear to be
> > at 
> > > variance with each other. The professional umbrella will have a
> > board 
> > > of directors that Gentoo devs have no say in the appointment of.
> > > 
> > > How do you reconcile these apparently contradictory ideals?
> > 
> > Just like with every other external company, we will need to negotiate
> > and sign a contract.  This contract must guarantee that the umbrella
> > will give Gentoo appropriate freedom in handling its own affairs.
> > 
> > We don't have a say in appointing directors of banks, service
> > providers,
> > CPA... yet I am yet to hear that we can't use their services because
> > of
> > that.  In fact, with most of those companies we probably have even
> > less
> > say than with the potential umbrellas.
> 
> We get to choose all of these things and change if we want to.
> An umbrella will own gentoo.

It will own Gentoo the same way banks own our money or hosting services
own our servers.  The contract must protect Gentoo, and let us leave
the umbrella if they do not meet our needs.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny