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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response!
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2019 17:12:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b84c0a026551472a05e776921182ba8dae6fb1e.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190703143429.yfieiru7cyykr5ca@gentoo.org>

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On Wed, 2019-07-03 at 09:34 -0500, Matthew Thode wrote:
> On 19-07-03 09:08:14, Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > Are you aware if the fee is going to be the same if we
> > > go for proper non-profit?
> > 
> > Do you mean 501c3 by "proper non-profit?"  Or some other tax-exempt status?
> > 
> > I think most around here have abandoned all hope of ever running our
> > own 501c3.  A number don't even think we should try, and a 501c3 is
> > hard enough to get approved if you have a professional board all
> > towing the party line.  If you get people making public statements
> > like we ought to be a trade association (which is non-exempt) it would
> > be even harder.
> > 
> > However, I imagine most CPAs would charge more for a tax-exempt org as
> > there is MUCH more scrutiny on their operations.  I'd also argue that
> > we would need to be spending more on compliance in general or
> > consulting ad-hoc with professionals to not run afoul of the law.
> > 
> > If you meant a non-profit that isn't tax-exempt then I don't see why
> > their fees would be any different, but there really isn't any big tax
> > benefit to Gentoo to having one status or another as far as I can
> > tell.  The IRS taxes non-profits the same as for-profit companies if
> > they aren't tax-exempt.  It is the exempt status that comes with all
> > the rules and scrutiny.
> > 
> > Usually in the US when people say "non-profit" they tend to mean a
> > tax-exempt status like 501c3, but these are of course not the only
> > sorts of non-profit companies.  The US National Football League (the
> > kind where you usually don't hit the ball with your foot) is
> > non-profit, but definitely not tax-exempt, and I can only imagine what
> > their revenues are like.
> > 
> 
> The fees remain the same for a c3 (1500 per year).  We've talked to the
> Accounting firm about our options in attaining c3 status.  There are a
> couple of ways we could go about it.  Filing fee remains the same (~1k
> iirc) for all options.
> 
> 1. fix all back taxes (10 years) then refile, this would cost 9k more
> for the back taxes alone (4 years was recently approved).
> 

Plus $15000 in CPA fees, correct?  Or do we assume a different fee for
that part?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-07-03 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2019-07-03  6:12   ` [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-03 10:47     ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 11:27       ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:27         ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:45           ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2019-07-03 12:56     ` Michał Górny
2019-07-03 13:08       ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 13:17         ` Michał Górny
2019-07-03 14:34         ` Matthew Thode
2019-07-03 14:40           ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 14:45             ` Matthew Thode
2019-07-03 14:59               ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-03 15:24                 ` Matthew Thode
2019-07-03 15:12           ` Michał Górny [this message]
2019-07-03 20:41             ` Michał Górny
2019-07-04  1:16               ` [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! (part 2) Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-04  2:05               ` Robin H. Johnson
2019-07-05  7:45         ` [gentoo-nfp] Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation - Treasurer Response! Aaron Bauman
2019-07-05 15:00           ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-06  3:08             ` desultory

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