From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DB4E138334 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 82FFBE086B; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 62D3EE086B for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (pool-108-44-175-72.clppva.fios.verizon.net [108.44.175.72]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bman) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D2A56347AD6 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 11:21:03 -0400 From: Aaron Bauman To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Questions For Gentoo Foundation Trustee Candidates Message-ID: <20190714152103.GH22850@bubba.lan> References: <13dad59c44f143059b7bf0e8e5216d5540285bef.camel@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+Z7/5fzWRHDJ0o7Q" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <13dad59c44f143059b7bf0e8e5216d5540285bef.camel@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Archives-Salt: 917abd11-0a00-4074-8832-26380ad77993 X-Archives-Hash: 82d36c5b351ae63b0e5dbd4d52de534f --+Z7/5fzWRHDJ0o7Q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 03:39:51PM +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 06:17 -0700, Raymond Jennings wrote: > > What are your plans regarding future relations between the trustees and= the > > council? I noted that the council isn't even mentioned in the bylaws >=20 > I've answered this in detail in my Manifesto [1]. >=20 > Long story short, I believe the distribution should be self-governing, > and Foundation should support it without interfering unnecessarily.=20 > This means that Council makes the majority of the decisions regarding > Gentoo, and Trustees should work with the Council and respect > the decisions made by it. >=20 > [1] https://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/trustee-manifesto-2019.txt >=20 > --=20 > Best regards, > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny >=20 Nothing is "self-governing" and always requires a legal entity of some kind. This has implications beyond what the council can be held responsible for. On the premise of your statement though and through IRC chats, I agree with= your statement. =20 I am for by-laws delineating the roles of the council to lead the distribut= ion. As stated above, some things cannot be delegated. That is, things which have legal implications, COMREL, etc. This drives my first comment that nothing is "self-governing" in general. --=20 Cheers, Aaron --+Z7/5fzWRHDJ0o7Q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCAAdFiEEDA48qNrrn8VVVcst4yp5f7HQy3AFAl0rSF8ACgkQ4yp5f7HQ y3BrkAf/XSFxw7ePHjyWs9Qovnz438WSRSdWHzMQd9/1vnYATRXrqeiIzxe6Qi22 m1hyUYTNXahmytKFWAEE+7OQE4HEnGw+5M6foWumyQ3nn18r70asshPB75jxZ7m9 UC2ohZLrsp4pXepQiCFxvGN6tBySRE9i1kgeFl2Bt7G59IjD24GgLQg/y0ymVu+f Ura9wTz++HEMeAwYbtHSX+gBLvdTNDpsaRHzA6OBybfo4KF/7UVNgdmMQWno1HD8 PJmA/Ba/2O+acJMs7D60cMHMDFHWzHFer/2M4L5rj6AU2XBrr+R2H4x8zaizu6Ws D3a5W+wMI9QgYzteGLatXIrNEEnJkw== =/a7p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+Z7/5fzWRHDJ0o7Q--