From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 590D11395E2 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 08:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B04E3E0BA7; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 08:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 940A5E0BA7 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 08:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix, from userid 617) id 9BDA5341024; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 08:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 08:23:39 +0000 From: Sven Vermeulen To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] Next meeting; a motion to have 1 type of Gentoo member. Message-ID: <20161107082339.GA16563@gentoo.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) X-Archives-Salt: 20951382-8402-4502-99b2-9d1a2ce655e8 X-Archives-Hash: b78fcf3c7b81d0949661449416dcd77c On Sun, Nov 06, 2016 at 06:32:59PM -0800, Alec Warner wrote: > The foundation currently has 1 member type (in the bylaws) but Gentoo > itself still seems to have 2 (Gentoo staff and Ebuild developer) > This motion represents an idea that the community itself would only > have 1 contributor type. > 1) Contributors must take the staff quiz (which we should rename to the > contributor quiz.) > 2) Contributors are encouraged to be foundation members, but membership > is not required. We may amend the contributor onboarding process to > offer foundation membership at the time they join Gentoo as a > contributor. > 3) Contributors that want access to the gentoo ebuild repository still > need to follow the normal recruiting process (ebuild quiz, mentor, 30 > day period.) > 4) Contributors that do not want access to the gentoo ebuild repository > (because they contribute in other ways) do not need to take the ebuild > quiz. Its unclear if a 30 day grace period is required for non-ebuild > groups. > 5) Existing developers and staff are rebranded as contributors. > If approved, I expect a few months of working with comrel to adjust > existing policy documents and recruiting guidelines to implement. The difference between Staff and Developer is "merely" that a Developer has access to the Portage tree (and as such can influence system behavior of Gentoo users). Staff are still developers, they work on other aspects of the distribution, such as core documentation, infrastructure, release engineering, forum maintenance, etc. I would not appreciate an intake for contributors. Many wiki contributors (which offer a wealth of documentation information) would be affected by this, which they will see as bureaucratic stuff. Same with proxy maintained packages. Those contributors are no staff, yet they provide valuable improvements to Gentoo. If we would want to align Gentoo Project user-types and Foundation, then we are moving the project management into Foundation space a bit. Currently, the Foundation has always tried not to meddle within this. I am not opposed to making things a bit easier for both though (for instance, all staff and developers are automatically Gentoo Foundation members). Wkr, Sven Vermeulen