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Tue, 21 Jul 2020 19:46:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ahJruQCk6OuQ22vY3tzJg6OvlyqpTWfMH" X-Archives-Salt: 6cb893ca-655c-47a5-9fb6-b0e8cdd2e757 X-Archives-Hash: e38a3c7e8efd5668733f623e0bc8ead4 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ahJruQCk6OuQ22vY3tzJg6OvlyqpTWfMH Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="LKyxGLBknYY7lt61HRWmizVggU4YG7p9i"; protected-headers="v1" From: "Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)" To: gentoo-nfp@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: <1c7dc842-e4ce-7287-e8f7-77974129f251@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-nfp] [Discussion and vote] Hire CPA for Fiscal 2020 taxes References: <8a9362a6d3037fd833356ed56a79794aa9169d9f.camel@gentoo.org> <770C6A00-2409-4096-B50C-6059EA44AF27@gentoo.org> <63654E03-E140-4BCC-8A82-15C4C65A8FD5@gentoo.org> <176c784f89056b1ad6208fa7f56e7e1a917050d9.camel@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: --LKyxGLBknYY7lt61HRWmizVggU4YG7p9i Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3EB5D0D55052CD109FB3772F" Content-Language: sv-FI This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3EB5D0D55052CD109FB3772F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El 21/7/20 a las 19:41, Alec Warner escribi=C3=B3: > NetBSD spends about 3-5k a year on legal and operational expenses accor= ding to their filings. If we hired this accountant for Tax and Bookkeepin= g our expenses would be somewhere around 4k a year. So this seems in the = right ballpark of costs for these tasks. I agree 7% is high. However beca= use we are spending about the same as the peer organizations I have looke= d at, I'm not confident we can effectively reduce these costs very much w= ithout impacting the work product. There are penalties and fines for doin= g the taxes wrong so i'm less eager to hire a very cheap CPA to do them. Plus an accountant who is not a CPA cannot, under most circumstances, rep= resent the Foundation in front of the IRS during an audit. Given the Foun= dation's current history I wouldn't be surprised if it=C2=A0 gets audited= =2E --------------3EB5D0D55052CD109FB3772F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
El 21/7/20 a las 19:41, Alec Warner escribi=C3=B3:
NetBSD spends about 3-5k a year on legal and operational expenses according to their filings. If we hired this accountant for Tax and Bookkeeping our expenses would be somewhere around 4k a year. So this seems in the right ballpark of costs for these tasks. I agree 7% is high. However because we are spending about the same as the peer organizations I have looked at, I'm not confident we can effectively reduce these costs very much without impacting the work product. There are penalties and fines for doing the taxes wrong so i'm less eager to hire a very cheap CPA to do them.
Plus an accountant who is not a CPA cannot, under most circumstances, represent the Foundation in front of the IRS during an audit. Given the Foundation's current history I wouldn't be surprised if it=C2=A0 gets audited.
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